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  • 08-06-2009, 12:35 PM
    xXxFluffyEmoxXx
    Super Spider Ball
    I myself think there is a super spider that doesn't have a different visual then a normal spider. Normal spiders when bred to a normal will have 50% s 50% n ( on avrg. Now spider to spider breeding will produce a super spider. The only way to find out which one it is ( because there is no difference in appearance ) would be to breed it out to another normal. ALL eggs will come out spider ..thus the super spider. Super s = All eggs will come out dominate trait, N Spider = 50% come out spider 50% normal. These are just my views as to what I have witnessed and studied. I will have more info on the " Super Dominate " when I have enough evidence. I have come across this sight while looking for others info on the topic.

    http://www.ballpython.ca/what_get/dominant.html

    He apparently has the right idea. This is a topic that should be looked into by big breeders and most of us little breeders! I dont expect this to raise up for some time, But im just giving you a bit of info and my opinion!

    Thanks for reading,

    xXxFluffyxXx

    ( I do expect to hear answers and people having :sabduel: ) :)
  • 08-06-2009, 12:50 PM
    guambomb832
    Re: Super Spider Ball
    Yea there is a super spider. But then spider to spider breeding yield unhealthy offspring with lots of deformities, such as duckbills, no eyes, kinks, wobbles, corkscrews, all of that.
  • 08-06-2009, 12:56 PM
    Dave86
    Re: Super Spider Ball
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by guambomb832 View Post
    Yea there is a super spider. But then spider to spider breeding yield unhealthy offspring with lots of deformities, such as duckbills, no eyes, kinks, wobbles, corkscrews, all of that.

    Nobody owns a proof of that, I think it's just a myth.
    Why should an homozygous form be letal?
    Somebody here has got a spider which gave 100% spider when paired with a normal.
  • 08-06-2009, 01:03 PM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: Super Spider Ball
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by guambomb832 View Post
    Yea there is a super spider. But then spider to spider breeding yield unhealthy offspring with lots of deformities, such as duckbills, no eyes, kinks, wobbles, corkscrews, all of that.

    Do you have proof of this?
  • 08-06-2009, 01:14 PM
    Turbo Serpent
    Re: Super Spider Ball
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by guambomb832 View Post
    Yea there is a super spider. But then spider to spider breeding yield unhealthy offspring with lots of deformities, such as duckbills, no eyes, kinks, wobbles, corkscrews, all of that.

    Never heard of any deformities with spiders merely that they have a wobble and some are worse than others. :weirdface

    Lets see the super spider you speak of.... Nobody has any physical or documented proof of one existing. Simply word of mouth about some guy who knows some guy who saw one.
  • 08-06-2009, 01:36 PM
    matt71915
    Re: Super Spider Ball
    i think that there is such a thing as a super spider. I have never heard of the deformities that occur when breeding the spider x spider. The only lethal super that i have heard of is the super woma (pearl).
  • 08-06-2009, 01:36 PM
    asplundii
    Re: Super Spider Ball
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dave86 View Post
    Why should an homozygous form be letal?

    Obviously you are not too familiar with the Pearl (super woma TypeI) or the super Jag in carpets... Both of which are homozygous lethal
  • 08-06-2009, 01:40 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Super Spider Ball
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by guambomb832 View Post
    Yea there is a super spider. But then spider to spider breeding yield unhealthy offspring with lots of deformities, such as duckbills, no eyes, kinks, wobbles, corkscrews, all of that.

    Says who? :confused:
  • 08-06-2009, 01:42 PM
    Dave86
    Re: Super Spider Ball
    Quote:

    Obviously you are not too familiar with the Pearl (super woma TypeI) or the super Jag in carpets... Both of which are homozygous lethal
    I know about that...I just don't know why people say a super spider MUST be lethal just because it's homozygous, without having or having had any proof like we have with womas, I hope you understand what I mean.
  • 08-06-2009, 01:51 PM
    Turbo Serpent
    Re: Super Spider Ball
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dave86 View Post
    I know about that...I just don't know why people say a super spider MUST be lethal just because it's homozygous, without having or having had any proof like we have with womas, I hope you understand what I mean.

    Because there is no proof of one existing so it has been deducted that it must either a) die in the egg b)the egg dies during incubation c) the eggs containing the supers are laid as slugs.

    If you believe one exists, help prove they are out there. :gj:
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