Caramel/pastel mystery solved!!

Well, the last clutch from that male Caramel albino that fathered the pastel earlier in the season has pipped/hatched (mother was a normal het caramel), and even though there were only three eggs, the results are illuminating:
http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/...rapast-med.jpg
http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/...ranorm-med.jpg

That's right, a perfect little pastel caramel albino, plus another regular caramel albino. To clinch things, the third egg has pipped, and contains yet another pastel! So, in three clutches, this male has sired: 5 caramels, 2 pastels, 3 normal hets, and at least(one of the other caramels bears reexamination)1 pastel caramel!

So it looks like our male was a Pastel Caramel after all, so no "spontaneous mutation" or "new line" pastels, unfortunately. But I am nonetheless relieved to finally know what is actually going on!:banana:

Thanks to everyone who very helpfully provided input on this clutch over the last several weeks!

Well, congratulations Brad! Sounds like a great season! You should link to your other thread, so those who aren't familiar with that story can catch up on it!

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Originally Posted by BChambers

So, in three clutches, this male has sired: 5 caramels, 2 pastels, 3 normal hets, and at least(one of the other caramels bears reexamination)1 pastel caramel!

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Sounds like your stud is a keeper! :banana:

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Well, congratulations Brad! Sounds like a great season! You should link to your other thread, so those who aren't familiar with that story can catch up on it!

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You're right-here's the original thread:

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=94358

That's great! Congrats! Thanks for the update, Brad.

Yes, awesome pastel caramel too!

Well I guess the question to be asked is how/why did a keeper produce a pastel Caramel and sell it as a normal caramel? Did your male come from a caramel pastel clutch and the breeder did not think it was one?

Ryan Young

I think ryan has a good question... Guess you came out on the good end of a deal!!!

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Originally Posted by Ryan Young

Well I guess the question to be asked is how/why did a keeper produce a pastel Caramel and sell it as a normal caramel? Did your male come from a caramel pastel clutch and the breeder did not think it was one?

Ryan Young

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All I can think is that he got the parents mixed up-our male came from different parents than he thought? Whatever happened, we're not going to complain!

Great story, excellent outcome....Congrats:gj: