50% het pied x normal

What % het pieds would this pairing make? Thanks! :)

Either 50% het or 0%. Usually, a 50% het is bred to a visual morph to prove whether or not it is in fact a het. If you have a 50% het, and breed it to a normal, you really can't say the babies are anything other than normals. If it's a male, you could hold back all the females from the breeding and raise them up for 2-3 years to breed back to the 50% poss het to see if you hatch any pieds, but breeding a 50% het to a normal is pretty much the same as breeding two normals together. These days, you would almost have the same odds of hatching a morph from a 4 year project like the one you are talking about, as you would from doing the same pairings with any normal cb male. If it's a 50% poss het female, I would buy a het male to breed to her next year.

To answer your question, Some would say you'd have 25% hets. I'd call them 0%, until you prove the poss het parent is a het. I have a bee that's poss het albino, but until he fathers an albino, he's just a bee.

Most people would consider them normals until the phet parent has been proven.

I suppose mathematically, they are 25% phets. However, that can be misleading. Often people will buy an entire clutch of 50% or 66% phets, because that gives them a very good chance of having at least one carry the gene. However, since in this case we don't even know if the parent carries the gene, there is still a very high chance that none of the babies will carry the gene.

If for example a 50% phet male was bred to several normal females, you might end up with 25 "25%" phet babies. However, if the phet male is not actually a het, then NONE of those babies even have a chance of carrying the gene.

On the other hand, if you used a 100% het male instead, those 25 50% phet babies have an astronomically low chance of being all normals.

They would be normals, plain and simple, IF you were to sell them. As far as price would go, normal price, but I would also tell the buyer the whole story. If you sold a possible, possible, possible Het Axanthic to some buyer who was trying to prove out their line of Axanthic.....it might mess up their project.

In my opinion, there is not a % PH lower than 50%. Anything else, is a reach at best.

Dave

I've done this cross several times. True, at the current prices it doesn't make much sense but when I started 100% het pied males where thousands of dollars. Also, with pied you have the het indicator bellies some of the time. Some don't put much stock in that but I do. I can't really prove anything yet as very few of my hold back het pied bally females have reached breeding size. Just last year I held back this girl who if you follow down her linage only is on paper a 12.5% chance het piebald.

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