super cinnamon/super black pastel

I want to make one of these eventually but i have seen some of them with "duck billed" heads. Is there any way to prevent this? do both genes do this?

To my knowledge it's case by case, and there are multiple lines of both Cinnamons and Black Pastels so I imagine it is possible that one of them doesn't have this problem.

What exactly is a "duck billed head"?

Does someone have a picture?

http://www.ballpythonmorphs.com/daytona07/bhb23.jpg

Clearly defined "duck bill"

I've seen this mentioned before. Does anyone know which lines this has happened with?

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

I've seen this mentioned before. Does anyone know which lines this has happened with?

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I think it occurs in all the lines, But from what I have heard, the Ian G. line is the least likely one to have these genetic flaws.

i think it looks kinda cool, is there anything wrong with the duck bill besides it looks weird

i too think its cool!

I've heard that breeding different lines will lessen the effect, but I don't know if this is fact or rumor. I've seen some individuals that didn't have as pronounced of a duckbill as others and those have been from different lines, so I think it'll have to be something that's line bred out. Personally I don't worry about the duck bills myself, I don't think it detracts from the looks all that much. What I worry about is that the supers also show a propensity for occaisional kinking.

I too believe the issue may be resolved by breeding unrelated animals.

I remember back when I was researching both Cinnys & Black Pastels, the trait was first noted in Cinnys. Then I saw the 1st Sliver Bullet & knew I had to get in on the Black Pastels. I liked the funky patterns on them & how dark they are.

I contacted Chris @ GCR about an outstanding male they had & after speaking with him, he confirmed the animal was from the same WC group as Ian G's line. After I got my boy, I got an unrelated female & this year they produced this girl:

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...s/IMG_4579.jpg

You'll note she has white on the sides of her face but no "duck bill":
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...s/IMG_4587.jpg