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Sable vs Chocolate

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  • 04-19-2009, 07:53 PM
    FIREball
    Sable vs Chocolate
    According to NERDs site under available animals, these are the "same." Never really thought about it but I guess it would be equivalent to Mojo Lesser Butter being similar.

    Anyone ever heard of this?
  • 04-19-2009, 08:32 PM
    Turbo Serpent
    Re: Sable vs Chocolate
    According to Kevin McCurley's book the Super Chocolate is a striped brown snake. But it says the het Chocolate is still being kept a secret.

    And the super sable is just an even darker version of the sable.

    AFAIK they are different alleles and the outcomes are completely different in regards to the Homozygous snake.
  • 04-19-2009, 09:43 PM
    FIREball
    Re: Sable vs Chocolate
    "Why buy a chocolate for three times the money when you can buy a sable and make the same combos"

    http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ava...hp?product=574
  • 04-19-2009, 09:45 PM
    SUPERBALLS
    Re: Sable vs Chocolate
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent View Post
    According to Kevin McCurley's book the Super Chocolate is a striped brown snake. But it says the het Chocolate is still being kept a secret.

    And the super sable is just an even darker version of the sable.

    AFAIK they are different alleles and the outcomes are completely different in regards to the Homozygous snake.

    chocolates are a proven co-dom morph there are not hets
  • 04-19-2009, 09:47 PM
    SUPERBALLS
    Re: Sable vs Chocolate
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FIREball View Post
    "Why buy a chocolate for three times the money when you can buy a sable and make the same combos"

    http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ava...hp?product=574

    chocolates make differnt combos, a super chocolate is different then a super sable, and chocolate pinstripes are a lot better looking that sable pin too
    they are similar but they are two seperate morphs! check out bhbs chocolates they look way different then any sable on the market and there supers are amazing!!
  • 04-19-2009, 09:59 PM
    Turbo Serpent
    Re: Sable vs Chocolate
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SUPERBALLS View Post
    chocolates are a proven co-dom morph there are not hets

    Chocolate is the Het form or the co-dom and the Super is the homo form or the dominate.
  • 04-19-2009, 10:01 PM
    Turbo Serpent
    Re: Sable vs Chocolate
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FIREball View Post
    "Why buy a chocolate for three times the money when you can buy a sable and make the same combos"

    http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ava...hp?product=574

    Also Kevin McCurley is the owner of Nerd and the author of 'The Complete Ball Python'. He lists in his book that they are different, but his site claims they are the same?

    I think he means the hypermelanism in both will alter combos the same.
  • 04-19-2009, 10:06 PM
    SUPERBALLS
    Re: Sable vs Chocolate
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent View Post
    Chocolate is the Het form or the co-dom and the Super is the homo form or the dominate.

    right i understand that, but he said het for chocolate, not super chocolate
  • 04-19-2009, 11:22 PM
    sg1trogdor
    Re: Sable vs Chocolate
    Well I dont see where it is listed as being the same on the site that ad that you linked us to while is obviously on the NERD site is not being sold by NERD. Look at the user name "evilmorphgod"
  • 04-19-2009, 11:35 PM
    Turbo Serpent
    Re: Sable vs Chocolate
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SUPERBALLS View Post
    right i understand that, but he said het for chocolate, not super chocolate

    I am the one that said it. :rolleyes:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent View Post
    According to Kevin McCurley's book the Super Chocolate is a striped brown snake. But it says the het Chocolate is still being kept a secret.

    And the super sable is just an even darker version of the sable.

    AFAIK they are different alleles and the outcomes are completely different in regards to the Homozygous snake.

    And I was referring to the Heterozygous form. No matter if its recessive or co-dom, there is still a Heterozygous form and a Homozygous form. One is visual the other is not.

    I said Het Chocolate, not Het for Chocolate.

    Anyway, I know what I wrote. :P
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