Why We Are Idiots For Using Kingsnake.com To Price Our Animals

Everybody who breeds ball pythons needs to read this and give it some serious thought:

http://ballpythonbreeder.com/2009/04...imals/#respond

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Originally Posted by ColinWeaver

Everybody who breeds ball pythons needs to read this and give it some serious thought:

http://ballpythonbreeder.com/2009/04...imals/#respond

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Its called price speculation it happens in loads of markets. The difference is that other markets will go back up..

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Its called price speculation it happens in loads of markets. The difference is that other markets will go back up..

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I'm not interested in other markets; I'm interested in the ball python market and the means by which we are determining our prices is flawed and detrimental. And there is no coming back from it.

Saying, "that's just the way it works" and leaving it at that isn't acceptable. Because it's not the way it works. False market forces are driving prices and people need to become more aware.

Interesting read. It happens in all markets.

My feeling is that an item for sale is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it, and if you can affect how much someone is willing to pay for a snake by posting a few ads on a website, well that item was overvalued in the first place.

Hmm, this is very interesting.

I had no idea.

Interesting read,

When do you expect this new site will be up Colin?

I completely agree with the article, I've been thinking about that same scenario for years, and I'm glad to see a website like this coming along so I don't have to do it myself. I think I've said that before. Great job, guy!

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

Interesting read. It happens in all markets.

My feeling is that an item for sale is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it, and if you can affect how much someone is willing to pay for a snake by posting a few ads on a website, well that item was overvalued in the first place.

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So with cbb yearling normals being about $20-$50, you're saying they were overpriced at $100, even though it costs at least $150 in food alone to care for that baby for that year? A pastel was over priced when they cost more than $100, even though the breeder paid $800 for the parents, and $$50-$100 just to hatch the eggs and feed the babies for a few months? The demand is substantially higher than we price our animals at, and kingsnake.com is the reason for it.

Ok, here is my response to the article. My father and I own/run an online distribution business in the remote controlled airplane market and the one thing that I noticed is that the large name brand companies control the prices in the market. Companies like Futaba, Hitec, and JR are the large scale manufacturers of the high quality radio equipment. They are able to set the prices for their products as they see fit because they have a HUGE market presence.

I think the reason that there is no real price control in the Ball Python market is due to the lack of large market presences. We can all agree that there are “Big Boys” in our market. Just take a look at Nerd’s website, but the problem is that they don’t sell enough snakes to control the market. The number of small time breeders outweigh the serious breeders “Plain and simple.” Then, all of these small time breeders that make up a large portion of the market enjoy the benefits of their lower prices, so where are their incentives to keep prices high?

Now, if the goal is to control price and the internet is the source of fear for price damage. Shouldn’t the “Big boys” setup an online venture of their own? Perhaps have a one stop shop for everything ball pythons. There would have to be some serious compromises between the partners participating in the web store, but if it became the new place to buy snakes online rather than kingsnake.com the goal of controlling prices would be achieved.

Just my take,

Sean

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Originally Posted by Bobsean

Ok, here is my response to the article. My father and I own/run an online distribution business in the remote controlled airplane market and the one thing that I noticed is that the large name brand companies control the prices in the market. Companies like Futaba, Hitec, and JR are the large scale manufacturers of the high quality radio equipment. They are able to set the prices for their products as they see fit because they have a HUGE market presence.

I think the reason that there is no real price control in the Ball Python market is due to the lack of large market presences. We can all agree that there are “Big Boys” in our market. Just take a look at Nerd’s website, but the problem is that they don’t sell enough snakes to control the market. The number of small time breeders outweigh the serious breeders “Plain and simple.” Then, all of these small time breeders that make up a large portion of the market enjoy the benefits of their lower prices, so where are their incentives to keep prices high?

Now, if the goal is to control price and the internet is the source of fear for price damage. Shouldn’t the “Big boys” setup an online venture of their own? Perhaps have a one stop shop for everything ball pythons. There would have to be some serious compromises between the partners participating in the web store, but if it became the new place to buy snakes online rather than kingsnake.com the goal of controlling prices would be achieved.

Just my take,

Sean

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Hello price fixing.

I think there are laws in place to prevent this very thing from occurring.

Ok, I guess I had that one coming...

Well then, we are forever blessed with morphs becoming more available to the average college student!