Recessive Question

Hey, I was just wondering something about recessives.

I was wondering you hear 50% het for clown etc, now does that mean that clowns are homozygous animals? Pretty much just like codoms in that way for instance: Fire's are het for BEL's, except they show a visual difference. But with recessives het's they don't have any kind of color change and appear normal just carrying the parents gene. But when you do get that visual change from combing the recessive hets say the clown, thats considered homozygous?

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Originally Posted by dsmalex97

Hey, I was just wondering something about recessives.

I was wondering you hear 50% het for clown etc, now does that mean that clowns are homozygous animals? Pretty much just like codoms in that way for instance: Fire's are het for BEL's, except they show a visual difference. But with recessives het's they don't have any kind of color change and appear normal just carrying the parents gene. But when you do get that visual change from combing the recessive hets say the clown, thats considered homozygous?

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50% het means that one of the parents was a het and one of the parents was a normal. All the resulting offspring then have a 50/50 chance of being a het and being a normal. There is no way to tell which ones are hets untiul you breed them to see if you end up hatching a homozygous animal.

no no, I know all that lol

All I want to know, is if clowns, genetic stripes, all the recessives are they considered homozygous?

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Originally Posted by dsmalex97

no no, I know all that lol

All I want to know, is if clowns, genetic stripes, all the recessives are they considered homozygous?

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If a recessive gene is expressed in its visual form then yes its a Homozygous animal.

thank you sir!!

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Originally Posted by dsmalex97

Hey, I was just wondering something about recessives.

I was wondering you hear 50% het for clown etc, now does that mean that clowns are homozygous animals? Pretty much just like codoms in that way for instance: Fire's are het for BEL's, except they show a visual difference. But with recessives het's they don't have any kind of color change and appear normal just carrying the parents gene. But when you do get that visual change from combing the recessive hets say the clown, thats considered homozygous?

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You are right on :)

A pastel is a het for Super Pastel
A lesser is a het for BEL
etc...

and a spider is a het for Homozygous spider (since never got proof of a super form)

Super Pastel, Bel etc... are just nicknames of an animal with homozygous (2 allele) trait
and pastel, lesser etc... are nicknames of an animal with a heterozygous (1 allele) trait.

im just curious but where do the co-dom het's come from? Like the recessive hets look all normal, but co-dom hets have a visual effect. Did they come from the wild? Or were two other snakes I don't know of paired up to make it. For instance a fire, what makes a fire, or where did it come from in the first place??

ALL of the base BP morphs we have were created by natural mutations. I believe all of them were found in the wild, but it is possible that some recessive mutations appeared unexpected when someone happened to breed 2 hets together. I know of one member of this forum who, if I remember the story correctly, has a WC girl that happened to be het for pied, and he happened to breed her son back to her, and so now he has pieds. The first pied was still found in the wild, but that story illustrates how it could happen.

The combo morphs are created simply by pairing snakes together so that more than one morph appears in one snake.

It is theoretically possible that new morphs could either spontaneously occur in captivity, or that they could be genetically engineered, but at least as far as I am aware, that has not happened (yet).

You cannot create a base morph by pairing 2 snakes together. That is sort of the definition of what a base morph is.