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  • 03-11-2009, 10:14 PM
    rocky88
    piebald
    before you guys yell at me for not doing research before i ask questions. I looked for it and couldnt find the answer. but one option of making a piebald is you get a het piebald raise it then breed it with another het piebald and you will have about 25% chance of a piebald. or do you have to breed the het piebald with a piebald, please dont be mean i really tried with this one
  • 03-11-2009, 10:18 PM
    mdjudson
    Re: piebald
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rocky88 View Post
    before you guys yell at me for not doing research before i ask questions. I looked for it and couldnt find the answer. but one option of making a piebald is you get a het piebald raise it then breed it with another het piebald and you will have about 25% chance of a piebald. or do you have to breed the het piebald with a piebald, please dont be mean i really tried with this one

    correct. Check out geneticswizard.com
  • 03-11-2009, 10:24 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: piebald
    You are correct with the two hets, just keep in mind its 25% chance per egg.
    With a visual piebald to a het it 50% per egg and piebald to piebald is all piebalds.
  • 03-11-2009, 10:24 PM
    rocky88
    Re: piebald
    correct what? you breed a het and a het or a het and a piebald
  • 03-11-2009, 10:25 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: piebald
    Yes.. your sumation was correct. Het piedbald x het piedbald = 25% normal - 50% het piedbald - 25% pied(JACKPOT).
    Be aware that your results may vary, due to the whims of the egg gods.
  • 03-11-2009, 10:45 PM
    RedDevil
    Re: piebald
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rocky88 View Post
    correct what? you breed a het and a het or a het and a piebald

    Either one will work.
  • 03-12-2009, 12:29 AM
    rocky88
    Re: piebald
    thank you guys very much. And i believe when you cross a pastel and a spider you can hopefully get a bumble bee, right? But when you cross a spider and piebald that would make a spider 100% het piebald? one last one, say you take a normal and breed it with a recessive then you get a het of that recessive . sorry reading up and still just trying to understand genetics. thank you in advance!!!!!!!!!
  • 03-12-2009, 12:35 AM
    nevohraalnavnoj
    Re: piebald
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rocky88 View Post
    thank you guys very much. And i believe when you cross a pastel and a spider you can hopefully get a bumble bee, right? But when you cross a spider and piebald that would make a spider 100% het piebald? one last one, say you take a normal and breed it with a recessive then you get a het of that recessive . sorry reading up and still just trying to understand genetics. thank you in advance!!!!!!!!!

    Say you have an animal that is homozygous for any type of gene (whether it be recessive or dominant, example: a visual piebald or a super pastel), call this animal's two copies of the gene "a a".

    Say you have a normal, call this animal's two copies of the normal gene "b b".

    Breed them. Each parent throws one copy of the gene and all animals are "a b".

    Now, if "a a" was a visual recessive, all babies are 100% heterozygous for the recessive gene.

    If "a a" was super pastel, then all babies are pastels.

    It is the same odds, just one is visible and one is not.

    JonV
  • 03-12-2009, 12:42 AM
    rocky88
    Re: piebald
    and one last thing. which one is visual? sorry i really was trying to find all this stuff, oh and read that caresheet sorry just a little help isnt really as amazing as people made it seem
  • 03-12-2009, 01:40 AM
    nevohraalnavnoj
    Re: piebald
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rocky88 View Post
    and one last thing. which one is visual? sorry i really was trying to find all this stuff, oh and read that caresheet sorry just a little help isnt really as amazing as people made it seem

    recessive means it takes two copies of the gene to be visible (well, that may not be definition, but it's equivalent).

    So het for pied, het for albino, het for ghost, het for clown, het for lavender albino, all LOOK NORMAL.

    But pastel, spider, cinnamon, etc...all are visible with only one copy of the gene.

    JonV
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