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  • 03-03-2009, 11:45 AM
    zombie&lemons
    spiderxpastel
    i know you get 25% change of a bumblebee

    but i was wondering is the bumblebee a co dominate or is it dominate
  • 03-03-2009, 12:12 PM
    mainbutter
    Re: spiderxpastel
    The technical way to refer to a bumblebee is as a combo morph between two morphs: dominant(spider) and co-dominant(pastel), since it isn't a base morph.

    We can only refer to genes as dominant or co-dominant or recessive, and since the bumblebee morph is not caused by a single mutated gene, unlike the base morphs.
  • 03-03-2009, 10:00 PM
    ARamos8
    Re: spiderxpastel
    A bee in its own right has a chance of producing a bee when crossed with a normal. IMHO, since this is a possibility I will say that a bumble bee is a co-dominant which not only produces its base morph - pastels and spiders but also a bumble bee as well. Sire passes a bee gene, dam passes a normal gene. Smells co-dominant to me. :)

    Just the same, a killer bee (aka super pastel spider) does the exact same thing.:D
  • 03-03-2009, 10:23 PM
    Bluebead
    Re: spiderxpastel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ARamos8 View Post
    A bee in its own right has a chance of producing a bee when crossed with a normal. IMHO, since this is a possibility I will say that a bumble bee is a co-dominant which not only produces its base morph - pastels and spiders but also a bumble bee as well. Sire passes a bee gene, dam passes a normal gene. Smells co-dominant to me. :)

    Just the same, a killer bee (aka super pastel spider) does the exact same thing.:D

    Actually, since we are talking about seperate alleles or genes, you cant call it a bumblebee 'gene'. Instead its two seperate genes acting together.
    A bumblebee bred to a normal would produce(averages)
    25%bumblebees
    25%spiders
    25%pastels
    25% normals

    Since the killer bee has a pair of alleles(pastel) and can only pass one of them on with the gametes (sperm or egg) you cant reproduce them when bred to a normal.
    killerbee bred to normal produces
    50% bumblebees
    50% pastels

    Thats why we call these 'morphs' instead
    There is a great explanation on marks site:
    http://www.ballpythons.ca/genetics.html
  • 03-03-2009, 10:42 PM
    ARamos8
    Re: spiderxpastel
    I should have been more specific. Producing its base morph. Thanks for clearing it up, my ten minutes ran out when I noticed what I typed. :weirdface
  • 03-04-2009, 09:56 PM
    Bluebead
    Re: spiderxpastel
    Its all good; I made a few incorrect posts before I got my head wrapped around the genetics side of our amazing animals. I'm sure I still do, but hopefully less and less as time goes on:please:
  • 03-04-2009, 10:08 PM
    ARamos8
    Re: spiderxpastel
    Right on. I was handling my Bee as I was typing and I guess I just got caught up in the moment. LOL:D
  • 03-04-2009, 11:09 PM
    Bluebead
    Re: spiderxpastel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ARamos8 View Post
    Right on. I was handling my Bee as I was typing and I guess I just got caught up in the moment. LOL:D

    Hahah I dont blame you!!! I'm hoping for a Bee this year too:banana:
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