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  • 02-11-2009, 07:45 PM
    joshthaxton
    pied %
    I'm a little rusty on my genetics, what are the odds of producing visual piedballs from a het pied x het pied breeding. Also, what are the odds of producing a piedball with a piedball x het pied?
  • 02-11-2009, 07:47 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: pied %
    First pairing would be 25% chances

    Second pairing would be 50% chances
  • 02-12-2009, 02:03 AM
    nevohraalnavnoj
    Re: pied %
    Not only that, but the pied x het pairing yields 100% hets for every non-visual animal. The first pairing yields 66% hets.

    Get yourself two het girls this year, a nice pied male next year! :gj:

    JonV
  • 02-12-2009, 02:11 AM
    stevenkeogh
    Re: pied %
    Too quick for me to respond.
    Deb, you are named "The Intimidator"? What happened to "Frenchie"?
    -Steven
  • 02-12-2009, 03:50 AM
    Oxylepy
    Re: pied %
    Het Pied x Het Pied

    Normal Pied
    Normal Pied

    --------------Normal-------------Pied
    ---------Normal--Pied-------Normal--Pied

    So you will have:

    Normal Normal
    Normal Pied
    Pied Normal
    Pied Pied

    So 1 in 4 are Pied, 2 in 4 are Het Pied, and 1 in 4 is Normal. Since we can not 100% know which are pied and which are Het Pied you subtract the Pieds from the mix, leaving you with 2 Het Pieds and a Normal. 2/3rds of the non-Pied offspring are Het (66%) and 1/3rd are Normals (33%)

    Pied x Het Pied

    Pied Pied
    Normal Pied

    --------------Pied----------------Pied
    ---------Normal--Pied-------Normal--Pied

    This 2 in 4 are Pieds and 2 in 4 are Het Pieds. All offspring that are not Pieds are Het Pieds, thus 100% Hets.

    I assume you already figured this out, however I thought I would lay it out easier for you, and in a method you can use yourself (and you can keep expanding as well to 3 or more tiers).
  • 02-12-2009, 04:54 AM
    Lateralus_Love
    Re: pied %
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    Het Pied x Het Pied

    Normal Pied
    Normal Pied

    --------------Normal-------------Pied
    ---------Normal--Pied-------Normal--Pied

    So you will have:

    Normal Normal
    Normal Pied
    Pied Normal
    Pied Pied

    So 1 in 4 are Pied, 2 in 4 are Het Pied, and 1 in 4 is Normal. Since we can not 100% know which are pied and which are Het Pied you subtract the Pieds from the mix, leaving you with 2 Het Pieds and a Normal. 2/3rds of the non-Pied offspring are Het (66%) and 1/3rd are Normals (33%)

    Pied x Het Pied

    Pied Pied
    Normal Pied

    --------------Pied----------------Pied
    ---------Normal--Pied-------Normal--Pied

    This 2 in 4 are Pieds and 2 in 4 are Het Pieds. All offspring that are not Pieds are Het Pieds, thus 100% Hets.

    I assume you already figured this out, however I thought I would lay it out easier for you, and in a method you can use yourself (and you can keep expanding as well to 3 or more tiers).

    No offense but that was really confusing :confused:. It's a good thing I already know about the recessive genetic percentages or I wouldn't have been able to force myself to make any sense out of what you said lol.
  • 02-12-2009, 11:59 AM
    Oxylepy
    Re: pied %
    How was that confusing? It was tree-form version of the Punnett Square.
  • 02-12-2009, 02:55 PM
    dreese88
    Re: pied %
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevenkeogh View Post
    Too quick for me to respond.
    Deb, you are named "The Intimidator"? What happened to "Frenchie"?
    -Steven

    Because she's faster than everybody just like ole Dale Earnhardt was back in the day
  • 02-12-2009, 03:02 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: pied %
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dreese88 View Post
    Because she's faster than everybody just like ole Dale Earnhardt was back in the day

    It would have more to do with my personality and to a degree to the way I drive. ;)
  • 02-12-2009, 03:04 PM
    dreese88
    Re: pied %
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    It would have more to do with my personality and to a degree to the way I drive. ;)

    Yea..I was just mainly stating that because you replied faster than anybody else in this thread, where you were asked. Good to know though...I'll remember not to give you any crap:gj:
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