Dinker project ?s

So I have shown pics of this girl on other threads. She came from a bag of ch babies, I absolutely loved her pattern and she was brighter than all the rest so she was a keeper. As she is growing she is getting more and more blushing. Some people have looked at her and say she resembles a het russo. Isnt a het russo named this becuase someone named russo produced it first? If so isnt it impossible for a ch to be a het russo since it did not come from russo's breeding stock?
My plan is to breed her and hope a baby male comes from that clutch that looks like her. If it does I will breed him back in hopes to either produce babies that all look like her and her son which I am assuming proves her pattern a co dom genetic? Or if by some crazy luck I get a BEL, which would prove her as a het russo.
Lets say the first senerio happens and all the babies produced look like the parents, who decides that this is a new morph? What steps do you take to prove it is indeed a geneitic pattern and have it made official.
Is there already a morph out there I have missed that looks like this?

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a.../others046.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a.../others048.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...7/DSCF3857.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...7/DSCF3862.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...7/DSCF3864.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...7/DSCF3877.jpg

Sorry, I have no answers, I just wanted to say that she is very pretty!

Im still looking for some answers, any ideas anybody?:confused:

She looks a little bit like a yellowbelly doesn't she?

I dont think yellow belly, her belly is white and it barely has that checkeres look that the yellow beelies have. The only way to prove anything is by breeding her. I really just want to know more about the het russos and then if i do prove her genetic for something new how do you go about making that a new morph?

It will be difficult to figure out if she is or isn't the same as some other morph. If you have any males from the blue eyed leucistic complex you could start breeding that to her and see if she is even compatible (i.e. if she produces a similar looking white snake to what a Vin Russo het would have produced from the same pairing). If it still looks like she could be the same at that point it gets harder to be sure. Watch to see if her offspring look consistently the same or a little different from the Vin Russo's. Even to this day there isn't universal agreement if butter and lesser are exactly the same or just similar and compatible.

Ya know, I think you just put it out there as a new morph outlining what you've done to prove it and then hope none of the big guys challenge you on it. I don't know. I've been asking why the big guys hasn't come up with something like the AKC certification for dogs. One thing that would do is increase the value of the truly stunning specimens as well as putting a morph guarantee on certified snakes that could be sold for a higher price tag than non-certified ones. I, for sure, would rather pay the extra money for peace of mind than paying a lot of money for a snake that is maybe-a-yellow-belly, know what I mean?

Well time will tell I guess. She does get more blushing as she gets bigger so who lnows what she will look like as an adult. So far I am very pleased with her and I hope her blushing continues to intensify. If you look at a couple of the areas on her where the black has gone to a light brown yet still framed by black, can you imagine how cool it would look if all the dark areas looked like that?

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...77/example.jpg

these are her baby pics you can see there is alot less blushing

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...508NCH07-2.jpg
sorry its not good quality, i took this with a crappy camera
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/508nch07.jpg

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Originally Posted by Kryptonian

I dont think yellow belly, her belly is white and it barely has that checkeres look that the yellow beelies have. The only way to prove anything is by breeding her. I really just want to know more about the het russos and then if i do prove her genetic for something new how do you go about making that a new morph?

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Not saying she is or isn't, but for future reference for you - yellowbellies do have white bellies - the yellow is on the rest of them.

Looks like a very nice normal to me... unless a breeding project shows something different. I have a number of normals with similar characteristics (belly, blushing, ect.)