Morph List

Hey everyone,

I am *hoping*....really only hoping, I probably wont be able to get one....but just maybe...I can pick up my first morph this year. If so, I want to be ready and try and narrow down what I might want.

I wanted to get a list together of the more common morphs, and also what your advice would be for potentially breeding them later.

I am leaning more toward codom morphs, although albinos are an option as well...I am not sure of any other dom/rec morphs that I really like within my price range, but feel free to throw out whatever.

So....just to get started (if you have any to add, please copy/paste this list and tack on your addition)

Pastel
Cinnamon
Mojave
Black Pastel
Spider
Yellowbelly
Fireballs/Sulfur
Albino/Het Albino
Lesser
Butter

If anyone happens to be good with pricing, feel free to let me know ~what each morph went for this season...they more or less are least expensive to most expensive ...I think. The ones I had the hardest time pricing were Butters, Lessers, and Sulfur/Fireballs.

Overall, if you have any advice I have specifically asked for, fire away, I am all ears.

This isn't the answer your prolly looking for...but get what YOU like...not what we like! ;) I for one like ALL of the morphs you listed.

As for prices...well it all depends on what it's worth to the breeder I suppose. I would browse KS for price ideas...you'll see there how breeder 'X' could be selling a pastel for $75....while breeder 'Y' is selling theirs for $200. They just vary breeder to breeder.

....as I said...prolly not the answer you were looking for, but get what attracts YOU the most. Good Luck and keep us up to date! :):salute:

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

This isn't the answer your prolly looking for...but get what YOU like...not what we like! ;) I for one like ALL of the morphs you listed.

As for prices...well it all depends on what it's worth to the breeder I suppose. I would browse KS for price ideas...you'll see there how breeder 'X' could be selling a pastel for $75....while breeder 'Y' is selling theirs for $200. They just vary breeder to breeder.

....as I said...prolly not the answer you were looking for, but get what attracts YOU the most. Good Luck and keep us up to date! :):salute:

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Prices do not just vary from breeder to breeder. Prices vary for a specific morph based on quality of the animal also. In the end you get what you pay for. Not saying that there are not good deals out there but you really have to search for a good deal on a great animal.... you can find a "good" deal on an average animal anytime.

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Originally Posted by JAMills

Prices do not just vary from breeder to breeder.

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...well I think one of us is misunderstanding the other then? I could probably run thru KS right now and pull off ads from 4 different breeders for 08 Pastels and I bet I could find 4 different prices for 08 Pastels...Prices vary breeder to breeder. :confused:

Allright....focus of the topic was misunderstood.

I just want a big list of morphs, and, knowing that I like everything on the list (relatively equally), what you think would make the best breeding project. Prices are pretty insignificant, at least at the moment, I just threw that in there for the stuff I couldnt find much or any of on KS.

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Originally Posted by ThyTempest

Allright....focus of the topic was misunderstood.

I just want a big list of morphs, and, knowing that I like everything on the list (relatively equally), what you think would make the best breeding project. Prices are pretty insignificant, at least at the moment, I just threw that in there for the stuff I couldnt find much or any of on KS.

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...if you already have a female normal, I would go with a male codom then. Any of the ones listed. It's really hard to say which one would be the 'best' breeding project beings it's all a matter of opinion...

Joshua - I think you mis-understood me.... I said prices "do not JUST vary from breeder to breeder"
but you also have to consider other factors do affect the variation of prices. You can get a $50 ugly pastel male or a $100 pretty pastel male. Though if you search and are willing to make an offer on a pretty pastel male you might find a great deal.

Oh a good name!

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Originally Posted by ThyTempest

Allright....focus of the topic was misunderstood.

I just want a big list of morphs, and, knowing that I like everything on the list (relatively equally), what you think would make the best breeding project. Prices are pretty insignificant, at least at the moment, I just threw that in there for the stuff I couldnt find much or any of on KS.

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Well that is a tough one with your list...

There are an unlimited number of combinations you can create from your existing list. So the question is what is your reason for the breeding project?
Do you just want to make a designer morph that you really like, or are you looking more towards what will be the best market value of what you produce?

Pinstripes
Womas
Ghosts
Axantics

I think would also fit into your list

Probably the easiest way to get into morphs would be one of the less expensive codom males and a normal female or two. If you have the extra money you could go for a codom x codom.... Pastel and Spider, Pastel and Pin..... Bees and Blasts are gorgeous snakes....

Mostly looking for market value right now, since that would help me expand more into more lower end morphs (until I get the list completed), or to get into some mid level/dollar morphs that are just out of the question right now. I can always produce something obscure that I really like later on, whereas prices are just going to keep falling....at the same time though, I would think that some codom morph crosses may be some of the better breeder ideas for both situations.

Also, my female is not breedable weight yet, though maybe next season if I have a male. She is about 1000g right now and off feed for over 2 months. She was 450 grams last May.

One of my options is to stock up on normal females and breed them to codom males, which is pretty high on the list. Another option is to forgo the multiple normal or het/poss het females and go for another codom morph and just produce one good clutch to expand for the next season.