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Toffee belly?

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  • 01-12-2009, 12:58 PM
    anatess
    Toffee belly?
    Hi,
    I was just wondering, what is the difference between a toffee belly western hognose and normal western hognose? My normal western has a dark belly that looks like toffee to me, so how is the toffee belly different?
  • 01-12-2009, 01:08 PM
    STORMS
    Re: Toffee belly?
    a good person to ask would be Stephan (aka FastDad), he should be able to answer this for you ;)
  • 01-12-2009, 10:43 PM
    Louie1
    Re: Toffee belly?
    Can you post a picture of the belly? The snake that is.
  • 01-13-2009, 03:15 AM
    FastDad
    Re: Toffee belly?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lenastorms View Post
    a good person to ask would be Stephan (aka FastDad), he should be able to answer this for you ;)

    I will try to do it ;)


    Like Loui1 sad, a belly-pic from your Hoggie would be great. But please do not use a phone-camera!

    To help you fast as possible, compare your snake to the pics in this post:
    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=79052
    and to give you a short guidance: there is no kind of black on the Toffeebellys without the Paradoxspots, but the eyes are not red.

    I hope this helps

    Stefan
  • 01-15-2009, 01:26 AM
    anatess
    Re: Toffee belly?
    AHH Stefan... I don't have a good camera. Only my cell phone. But, I think I got it. My hognose has the toffee color but also a lot of black on the belly. The toffeebelly on the pic has just toffee and darker toffee. So, my snake's belly looks a lot darker than the toffeebelly.
    Okay, so, a toffeebelly is a what kind of morph? Dominant or recessive? Just thinking if I should get a female toffeebelly to pair with my normal...
  • 01-16-2009, 04:23 PM
    anatess
    Re: Toffee belly?
    Okay, here's the belly pic - but only from my phone camera. But, I'm sure you can see clearly the black marking. So, I see the difference now. The toffee belly has no black on the belly... it's all shades of toffee. Fastdad, when you get a chance, can you read my previous post and see if you know the answer to my question? Thanks a bunch!
    http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l.../zekebelly.jpg
  • 02-24-2009, 04:35 PM
    FastDad
    Re: Toffee belly?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by anatess View Post
    AHH Stefan... I don't have a good camera. Only my cell phone. But, I think I got it. My hognose has the toffee color but also a lot of black on the belly. The toffeebelly on the pic has just toffee and darker toffee. So, my snake's belly looks a lot darker than the toffeebelly.
    Okay, so, a toffeebelly is a what kind of morph? Dominant or recessive? Just thinking if I should get a female toffeebelly to pair with my normal...

    Iīm sorry for the long waitingtime!
    But I havīnt seen your post.

    Toffeebellys are an recessive morph. When you breed your male to a Toffeebelly female, than all hatchlings will be 100% het for Toffeebelly. But they do look "normal".

    I hope this helps
    Stefan
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