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  • 12-16-2008, 12:38 AM
    malachi
    a whole slew of q's...help!!!
    i was lucky enough to inherit two beautiful bp's about 2 mos ago from a friend. they are male and female in on 50 gallon aquarium. i have proper heat and humidity setup with one hide. they are very active. the smaller snake which is the male (malachi) is getting along amazingly well. he has eaten two frozen mice and three live rats since i have had him. they have both went through a shedding cycle with no problems. the female and the larger of the two (jewel) seems content enough but we haven't been able to get her to feed. will she actually starve herself to death? i am worried. she is so beautiful. she has the width of a soda can. they are both really well mannered. they love attention. we have tried everything that we know to get her to feed (frozen, live,white, blck, brown).

    next question. do snakes yawn? :rofl: i know it sounds silly but i have been reading up on bp forums and was wondering if they are yawning or if it is ri. they both do it occasionally but not a lot. there is no sneezing or wheezing.

    next question. will they breed on there own? is it possible that my jewel isnt feeding because she is pregnant? as far as i know they have been together for over two years. if so, then what should i do to help her? how can i tell for sure?

    next. is there any reason why i cannot introduce limbs and plants from outside into their tank? is it necessary to go to the pet store and spend loads of cash or can i makeshift with natural stuff from the woods?

    next. the water dish. malachi is out to get me. every time i fill up their dish, malachi dumps it out within half an hour. is there a reason or is it just spite?:please: should i have a dish in the tank for both snakes or is one sufficient?

    next. in all the reading that i have been doing, i haven't seen any snakes being kept together. is there a reason for that? my snakes like each other i think. should i separate them?

    next. i was considering building them a tall terarium. the same base size as my 50 gallon just 6 feet taller. throwing in some climbing branches and such. do they prefer a smaller habitat or would you advise giving them a bigger home?

    i guess that covers it for now. i am sure i will come up with another hundred questions later. thanks for your help. :oops:
  • 12-16-2008, 12:43 AM
    LostNFound
    Re: a whole slew of q's...help!!!
    I can tell ya the first thing they are gonna tell you is you need two seperate tanks / tub for them ...
  • 12-16-2008, 12:45 AM
    OhBalls
    Re: a whole slew of q's...help!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by malachi View Post
    i was lucky enough to inherit two beautiful bp's about 2 mos ago from a friend. they are male and female in on 50 gallon aquarium. i have proper heat and humidity setup with one hide. they are very active. the smaller snake which is the male (malachi) is getting along amazingly well. he has eaten two frozen mice and three live rats since i have had him. they have both went through a shedding cycle with no problems. the female and the larger of the two (jewel) seems content enough but we haven't been able to get her to feed. will she actually starve herself to death? i am worried. she is so beautiful. she has the width of a soda can. they are both really well mannered. they love attention. we have tried everything that we know to get her to feed (frozen, live,white, blck, brown).

    next question. do snakes yawn? :rofl: i know it sounds silly but i have been reading up on bp forums and was wondering if they are yawning or if it is ri. they both do it occasionally but not a lot. there is no sneezing or wheezing.

    next question. will they breed on there own? is it possible that my jewel isnt feeding because she is pregnant? as far as i know they have been together for over two years. if so, then what should i do to help her? how can i tell for sure?

    next. is there any reason why i cannot introduce limbs and plants from outside into their tank? is it necessary to go to the pet store and spend loads of cash or can i makeshift with natural stuff from the woods?

    next. the water dish. malachi is out to get me. every time i fill up their dish, malachi dumps it out within half an hour. is there a reason or is it just spite?:please: should i have a dish in the tank for both snakes or is one sufficient?

    next. in all the reading that i have been doing, i haven't seen any snakes being kept together. is there a reason for that? my snakes like each other i think. should i separate them?

    next. i was considering building them a tall terarium. the same base size as my 50 gallon just 6 feet taller. throwing in some climbing branches and such. do they prefer a smaller habitat or would you advise giving them a bigger home?

    i guess that covers it for now. i am sure i will come up with another hundred questions later. thanks for your help. :oops:

    Yes, BP's are solitary animals and should be housed seperately. They don't really like each other. What looks like snuggling is actually both of them trying to get the ideal spot in the cage at any given time.

    Smaller is better...much better...they like to feel secure. Two hides for each snake, one on the warm side and one on the cool side is best.

    I would not do outside plants simply because of little buggies. You can get them real cheap at a craft store.

    ceramin cat/dog bowls work wekk for dumping water bowls....in the meantime, if you have a few rocks, that should help keep it stable.

    Oh and, a snake will refuse to eat for months....do not worry unless she loses weight....keep offering weekly and she should take it eventually....especially when you correct her enviornment..she will be much less stressed

    Hope this helps!
  • 12-16-2008, 01:06 AM
    malachi
    Re: a whole slew of q's...help!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OhBalls View Post
    Yes, BP's are solitary animals and should be housed seperately. They don't really like each other. What looks like snuggling is actually both of them trying to get the ideal spot in the cage at any given time.

    Smaller is better...much better...they like to feel secure. Two hides for each snake, one on the warm side and one on the cool side is best.

    I would not do outside plants simply because of little buggies. You can get them real cheap at a craft store.

    ceramin cat/dog bowls work wekk for dumping water bowls....in the meantime, if you have a few rocks, that should help keep it stable.

    Oh and, a snake will refuse to eat for months....do not worry unless she loses weight....keep offering weekly and she should take it eventually....especially when you correct her enviornment..she will be much less stressed

    Hope this helps!

    thanks for the suggestions. i dont have the space or the money t oset up another tank. i guess my best bet would be to give one of the snakes away.
    :( that makes me sad. but i would rather have one happy snake than two unhappy snakes. so that will be my first tactic. any comments on the pregnant thing anyone?
  • 12-16-2008, 01:13 AM
    OhBalls
    Re: a whole slew of q's...help!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by malachi View Post
    thanks for the suggestions. i dont have the space or the money t oset up another tank. i guess my best bet would be to give one of the snakes away.
    :( that makes me sad. but i would rather have one happy snake than two unhappy snakes. so that will be my first tactic. any comments on the pregnant thing anyone?

    You're welcome. BP's do very well in rubbermaid or Sterilite tubs. That would be an inexpensixe solution and take up less space.

    Wish I could help on the gravid question. I have only bred once and won't again until next season.
  • 12-16-2008, 01:24 AM
    hawaiianice99
    Re: a whole slew of q's...help!!!
    you dont have to give one away just separate them, storage totes or sterelite tubs work great and for that size snake should cost less than $12 or so.
  • 12-16-2008, 01:44 AM
    malachi
    Re: a whole slew of q's...help!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hawaiianice99 View Post
    you dont have to give one away just separate them, storage totes or sterelite tubs work great and for that size snake should cost less than $12 or so.

    the price of the tub isnt the issue. it is the price of setting up another heat and humidity system. even if i did it the cheap way its gonna cost me 50 to 70 dollars to set up another habitat and i just dont have it. plus i really dont have the room in my home for another setup. i would rather make sure they both are extremely happy and safe than to slight them both to be selfish.
  • 12-16-2008, 01:54 AM
    OhBalls
    Re: a whole slew of q's...help!!!
    Good for you! :gj: I applaud you for thinking of your snakes first!
  • 12-16-2008, 02:08 AM
    Melicious
    Re: a whole slew of q's...help!!!
    1. http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/...llon-heat-pad/

    11.99

    2. http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/...at-with-probe/

    26.95

    3. 2-3 for a plastic container at Lowes or some such other store.

    4. 1-3 for a plastic water bowl.

    5. Free for newspaper from newspaper stands or such.

    6. Sterilite/Rubbermaid tub range around 5-8. -Shrugs.- Maybe you could put some cardboard between them for the time being and then save up to pick up some of this stuff?
  • 12-16-2008, 09:27 AM
    malachi
    Re: a whole slew of q's...help!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Melicious View Post
    1. http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/...llon-heat-pad/

    11.99

    2. http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/...at-with-probe/

    26.95

    3. 2-3 for a plastic container at Lowes or some such other store.

    4. 1-3 for a plastic water bowl.

    thanks for that. if i can scrape up what u suggested then i will be a happy camper!
    5. Free for newspaper from newspaper stands or such.

    6. Sterilite/Rubbermaid tub range around 5-8. -Shrugs.- Maybe you could put some cardboard between them for the time being and then save up to pick up some of this stuff?

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