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  • 12-09-2008, 04:53 PM
    Dragnbaron
    Is there a way to tell het pied on appearance?
    Ok, i was told that the 'checker' or 'ladder' pattern on the belly of a ball pythin i traded for meant that it was het for pied. I'm not mad if it isn't because it does have beautiful markings regardless (and i got more than one snake out of the deal) but i wanted to check and make sure this was accurate and that the breeder wasn't yankin' my chain. I compared her to my two normals and he was right, she does have a great checkered grey pattern on her belly, and i never really noticed how one of my normals has a slight checkered pattern too.
    I figured i would ask the best and make sure i stayed 'in the know' about it. Thanks!
  • 12-09-2008, 04:59 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: Is there a way to tell het pied on appearance?
    Checkered isn't the pattern normally referred to as being a het pied marker.

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showp...6&postcount=11
  • 12-09-2008, 05:08 PM
    MDB
    Re: Is there a way to tell het pied on appearance?
    you never realy know until you prove it out unless it came from a notable breeder, there are different markings that people say to help identify a het. But its hard to tell some have the marking some dont, the same goes for normals some normals may have a marking that you may think is a het indicator when it realy is not. Good Luck with him!
  • 12-09-2008, 05:14 PM
    hawaiianice99
    Re: Is there a way to tell het pied on appearance?
    I dont think that there really is, i have seen het pieds and they all looked different.
  • 12-09-2008, 05:55 PM
    Dragnbaron
    Re: Is there a way to tell het pied on appearance?
    Ok, here are some pictures of her. I think that'll help :P
    She is a beautiful normal, if nothing else.
    http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/o...c/HPIM1749.jpg

    http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/o...c/HPIM1743.jpg
  • 12-09-2008, 06:26 PM
    Eric Sandoval
    Re: Is there a way to tell het pied on appearance?
    That doesn't look like a het pied marker. If you look at the pics in that link that is what they look like. I have a bunch of normals from non pied breedings that have the marker so just because one does have the look doesn't mean it's a het pied. Now on the other hand I've probably hatched over 100 het pieds and every single one has the marker to some extent or another. So if I were buying hets or possible hets I would be looking for ones with it. Personally I think since there is such a reliable marker for het pieds the selling of possible hets is a little questionable and there should definitely be a price difference in poss hets with the marker and without it.

    Eric
  • 12-09-2008, 07:26 PM
    mainbutter
    Re: Is there a way to tell het pied on appearance?
    Markers are hardly reliable.

    Recessive genes, by definition, don't affect an animal that is heterozygous for the gene.
  • 12-09-2008, 09:26 PM
    Eric Sandoval
    Re: Is there a way to tell het pied on appearance?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    Markers are hardly reliable.

    Recessive genes, by definition, don't affect an animal that is heterozygous for the gene.


    The marker for het pieds is very reliable. If you put 50 random het pieds in a container with 50 random normals, I bet you I could pick the hets with 95% accuracy.

    Eric
  • 12-09-2008, 09:33 PM
    RichardA
    Re: Is there a way to tell het pied on appearance?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    Markers are hardly reliable.

    Recessive genes, by definition, don't affect an animal that is heterozygous for the gene.

    If that were true there would be no yellow bellies.
  • 12-09-2008, 09:44 PM
    mooingtricycle
    Re: Is there a way to tell het pied on appearance?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RichardA View Post
    If that were true there would be no yellow bellies.

    Tell me about pastels

    Then tell me about Spiders.

    Then tell me about Mojaves.


    Now tell me about yellowbellies.
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