Just a few questions about genetics??

What do you get if you breed a male super pastel to a female pasteve?

Or a male super pastel to a female pewter?

Or a male super pastel to a pastel lesser?

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Originally Posted by west coast ballz

What do you get if you breed a male super pastel to a female pasteve?

Or a male super pastel to a female pewter?

Or a male super pastel to a pastel lesser?

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Ooohh lol the results for these are going to be pretty similar but I'll give it a shot (don't blame me if I get it wrong I've still got a lot to learn lol)

Super Pastel X Pastave - 25% super pastel, 25% pastave 25% super pastel mojave and 25% pastels

Super Pastel X pewter - 25% super pastel, 25% pewter, 25% sterlings and 25% pastels

Super Pastel X Pastel Lesser - 25% super pastel, 25% pastel lesser, 25% super pastel lesser and 25% pastel

Because your breeding a super all babies will carry the pastel gene, 25% (if I'm doing the math correctly) should get copies of the pastel gene from both parents making them also super pastels. 25% will get both the pastel gene and the other gene the mother carries 25% will get pastel from both parents as well as the mothers other gene and 25% will get only the pastel gene from the father.

If I'm off here please feel free to beat me over the head :rolleye2:

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Originally Posted by anendeloflorien

Ooohh lol the results for these are going to be pretty similar but I'll give it a shot (don't blame me if I get it wrong I've still got a lot to learn lol)

Super Pastel X Pastave - 25% super pastel, 25% pastave 25% super pastel mojave and 25% pastels

Super Pastel X pewter - 25% super pastel, 25% pewter, 25% sterlings and 25% pastels

Super Pastel X Pastel Lesser - 25% super pastel, 25% pastel lesser, 25% super pastel lesser and 25% pastel

Because your breeding a super all babies will carry the pastel gene, 25% (if I'm doing the math correctly) should get copies of the pastel gene from both parents making them also super pastels. 25% will get both the pastel gene and the other gene the mother carries 25% will get pastel from both parents as well as the mothers other gene and 25% will get only the pastel gene from the father.

If I'm off here please feel free to beat me over the head :rolleye2:

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Super Pastel X Pastel Lesser - 25% super pastel, 25% pastel lesser, 25% super pastel lesser and 25% pastel

And no lessers?

No lessers. The super pastel father will give a pastel gene to every one of the offspring, so it would be impossible to get a lesser, because that does not have the pastel gene.

Adam (anendeloflorien) has the correct answer & explanation I think, but for some reason it was hard for me to follow it the way he explained it. Perhaps you'll find this explanation easier.

The super pastel father will give a single pastel gene to every one of the offspring. The only question is what each baby will get from mom. Using the example where the mom is a pastel lesser, 25% of the babies will get a pastel gene from her, 25% will get a lesser gene, 25% will get both pastel & lesser, and 25% will get nothing. This has to be added to the pastel gene we know they will get from dad, which is why you end up with 25% super pastel, 25% pastel lesser, 25% super pastel lesser and 25% pastel.

For the other morphs, you just switch out lesser for mojave, etc.

For some people who are used to thinking in terms of "what outcomes can I expect when I breed X to a normal female?", it might be easier to pretend the pastel lesser is the male. When bred to a normal, you'd get 25% pastel, 25% lesser, 25% pastel lesser, 25% normal. But this time you aren't using a normal, you are using a super pastel, which will add a pastel gene to each baby.

pastel..................lesser...................pastel lesser..................normal
.. + ...................... + ........................ + ............................. + ...
pastel..................pastel...................pastel......................... .pastel
.. = ...................... = ........................ = ............................. = ...
super pastel..........pastel lesser..........super pastel lesser..........pastel

NOTE: in this little chart, the plus sign indicates the genes in an individual snake (one of the offspring). It does not indicate breeding those together (for which I would have used an X, and it would have been a much more complex chart).

So did that help or just make it more confusing? :rolleye2: