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  • 11-07-2008, 09:25 PM
    python baller
    prekilling your snake's prey by yourself?
    i can tell you now that my wife is totally against me storing a bag of frozen rats in our freezer. i'm not going to even bring the subject up.

    i've thought about another way to feed her a dead rat. could i just buy a rat and suffocate it in a jar? she was in a feeding frenzy when i fed her last w/o me even having to try so i think she'll eat prekilled prey.

    has anybody else done this?
  • 11-07-2008, 09:33 PM
    Mike Cavanaugh
    Re: prekilling your snake's prey by yourself?
    The humane and only propper way to do it is CO2. Check out the feeder section. You can make a CO2 euthenizer to use long term for pretty cheap. If you don't have the cash, you can just use a cheap tuperware container and canned air for now.

    Many people knock out or break the back of rodents using various methods. This is NOT an acceptable (or legal in most places) way of doing things. It is cruel, inefective, and messy.

    If you can't do the CO2 right now for whatever reason, just feed live. In my opinon there are only two acceptable ways to kill a rodent feeder:

    1.) Co2 eutheniztion
    2.) Snake constriction
  • 11-07-2008, 09:33 PM
    CaneCorso
    Re: prekilling your snake's prey by yourself?
    You could just let your snake suffocate it for you. I could be wrong but I would think trying to suffocate it in a jar would take awhile.
  • 11-07-2008, 09:34 PM
    Jeff Krupa
    Re: prekilling your snake's prey by yourself?
    There is a better way to do this. Go on youtube and look it up. It requires a set of hemostats. Pretty easy to find.
  • 11-07-2008, 09:44 PM
    giaach
    Re: prekilling your snake's prey by yourself?
    or just let your snake do what nature intended and give it to him live. Ive done if for over a year and never had a problem rats and mice, multiple feeds and single items.
  • 11-07-2008, 09:58 PM
    andwhy6
    Re: prekilling your snake's prey by yourself?
    thump it (cheapest) - (stick it in a bag and crack it on the cement) not exactly humane but how humane is throwing it in a cage with a giant monster that will break every bone in its body and squeeze the breath out of it....

    dry ice (every time cost) - stick it in a sealed container with it

    taser (one time cost) - one good shock from a cattle prod does it for me
  • 11-07-2008, 10:03 PM
    Spaniard
    Re: prekilling your snake's prey by yourself?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andwhy6 View Post
    thump it (cheapest) - (stick it in a bag and crack it on the cement) not exactly humane but how humane is throwing it in a cage with a giant monster that will break every bone in its body and squeeze the breath out of it....

    dry ice (every time cost) - stick it in a sealed container with it

    taser (one time cost) - one good shock from a cattle prod does it for me

    A lot more humane than being smashed against cement...

    An appropriately sized live prey item will expire via constriction without much suffering within seconds. That is what these snakes were designed to do.
  • 11-07-2008, 10:20 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: prekilling your snake's prey by yourself?
    Please do not thump your animals, it is cruel and not a guarantee to kill 100% of the time. You can very easily just break the poor thing and it still be alive. That is not at all humane.

    Giving it to your snake to take care of is a million times better than whacking, the amount of force is so strong that it can stop the heart from beating.

    Gassing is the only recognized private way of putting any feeders down besides the procedures a vet does.

    We put down rats every week via CO2 chamber. It is easy and no rat has to get hurt, they fall asleep with a slow trickle of gas, then when they are asleep turn it all the way up to dispatch of them quickly.

    You can make CO2 using vinegar and baking soda as well, dry ice can be purchased from Walmart too.
  • 11-07-2008, 10:36 PM
    rmune0750
    Re: prekilling your snake's prey by yourself?
    Yeah I've tried thumping before and it didn't kill the mouse in the first whack so I felt pretty bad....I suggest just feeding live. :snake:
  • 11-07-2008, 10:51 PM
    andwhy6
    Re: prekilling your snake's prey by yourself?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    A lot more humane than being smashed against cement...

    An appropriately sized live prey item will expire via constriction without much suffering within seconds. That is what these snakes were designed to do.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by littleindiangirl View Post
    Please do not thump your animals, it is cruel and not a guarantee to kill 100% of the time. You can very easily just break the poor thing and it still be alive. That is not at all humane.

    Giving it to your snake to take care of is a million times better than whacking, the amount of force is so strong that it can stop the heart from beating.

    Gassing is the only recognized private way of putting any feeders down besides the procedures a vet does.

    We put down rats every week via CO2 chamber. It is easy and no rat has to get hurt, they fall asleep with a slow trickle of gas, then when they are asleep turn it all the way up to dispatch of them quickly.

    You can make CO2 using vinegar and baking soda as well, dry ice can be purchased from Walmart too.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rmune0750 View Post
    Yeah I've tried thumping before and it didn't kill the mouse in the first whack so I felt pretty bad....I suggest just feeding live. :snake:

    not to be inhumane but.... trust me if you hit it hard enough it only takes once... use a fred meyer bag... and it does not take seconds for an animal to die when being constricted. were talkin 20 seconds and usually the animal is still moving if not still screaming. not to mention the prey gets bit in the face to start out. so im gonna say one quick knock to the head beats gettin bit in the face and squeezed to death any day.
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