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  • 10-28-2008, 02:51 AM
    redsman
    markers
    Are there any markers in a normal bp that might indicate it could be a het for something
  • 10-28-2008, 03:43 AM
    Oxylepy
    Re: markers
    If it's codom then it will be something like a fire or a pastel, those are het. If it is dominant then it will show up, and having hom would look no different. if it's recessive, which is probably what you mean, then no. That's kind of the definition of recessive. You can not tell that it has specific het genes, otherwise it would be a codom.
  • 10-28-2008, 08:55 AM
    RandyRemington
    Re: markers
    There are some mutations that don't seem to fall neatly into the recessive or co-dom categories and appear to have sporadic visible hets. In ball pythons piebald seems to be this way with many (some estimates as high as 80%) of the hets having a clear lower belly with dark solid stripes at the edge which looks like the pied pattern starting to develop. The problem is it varies in quality, not all hets show it, and some non hets show something similar. But to show up as often as it does in het pieds it does seem to be a co-dom tendency of the mutation.

    There have been less well documented rumors about other "recessive" ball python mutation that might show in some hets but piebald seems to be the best example so far.
  • 10-28-2008, 09:40 AM
    FatBoy
    Re: markers
    I have 5 het Albinos and 4 of them have atleast 1 yellow (albino) scale. Call me crazy but that is 4 out of 5.
  • 10-28-2008, 12:27 PM
    redsman
    Re: markers
    My female has one white scale in the middle of her brown(her grey spot)and further down the same thing
  • 10-28-2008, 02:03 PM
    Oxylepy
    Re: markers
    Well if you don't know what it is, try breeding it to different things to see if you can get something.
  • 10-28-2008, 02:20 PM
    FatBoy
    Re: markers
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    Well if you don't know what it is, try breeding it to different things to see if you can get something.

    Oh I know what they are, they are het Albinos and they all came from realiable breeders. My question is, could those scales be "het Albino markers"?
  • 10-28-2008, 02:30 PM
    Oxylepy
    Re: markers
    I was talking to redsman O.o
  • 10-28-2008, 02:38 PM
    Eric Sandoval
    Re: markers
    Every single het Pied I've produced over the last 4 years has had the belly marker. So if anyone has poss hets or is looking to buy them, I'd recommend getting ones with the marker. If you have ch animals with the marker it doesn't mean they're het pied. I've bred 4 ch females with the marker and none have produced pieds.

    Eric
  • 10-28-2008, 07:49 PM
    MikeCurtin
    Re: markers
    I have heard several descriptions of the het pied marker, and have even seen a pic or 2, but wasn't completely sure what I was looking at. I did have a friend produce possibles from a het x het pairing (one visual produced), and they all look to have what I understand to be markers. Could you post a pic so I can be sure of what I'm looking at?
    Thanks.
    Mike
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