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Sulfurs??

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  • 10-27-2008, 02:39 PM
    whitesnake12
    Sulfurs??
    I been hearing and seeing alot more of these lately and want to know what exactly is a sulfer? I know as of now there is no super morph,so is this morph simaliar to yellow bellies in terms that it enhances the morph you breed it to?
  • 10-27-2008, 02:48 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Sulfurs??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by whitesnake12 View Post
    I been hearing and seeing alot more of these lately and want to know what exactly is a sulfer? I know as of now there is no super morph,so is this morph simaliar to yellow bellies in terms that it enhances the morph you breed it to?

    If you do a search on here for sulfurs, you will find what you are looking for in a few different threads from last week. There is a super form. It's a black eyed leucistic.
  • 10-27-2008, 02:52 PM
    whitesnake12
    Re: Sulfurs??
    Thank you PythonWallance I wasn't sure if it was proven out to have a super well that answers my question thanks again.
  • 10-27-2008, 03:04 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Sulfurs??
  • 10-27-2008, 03:27 PM
    Oxylepy
    Re: Sulfurs??
    I've just been introduced to the concept of Sulfers and I have yet to see any difference between them and Fires. There may be one, but they both produce the same kind of super. I kind of want to see if the result of a sulfer/fire cross is a black eyed as well, or if it is a different gene. But at the moment I would have to say sulfers and fires are one in the same.
  • 10-27-2008, 03:33 PM
    mainbutter
    Re: Sulfurs??
    oxylepy, you could also make the argument that mojaves and lessers are "the same", since they are both het for blue eyed lucy.

    I haven't seen enough sulfers or fires to make any kind of assumption whether or not they are the same morph.
  • 10-27-2008, 03:46 PM
    Oxylepy
    Re: Sulfurs??
    The mojave doesn't make a full on leucistic, though. Any super mojave I have ever seen has head markings that are a light brown to gray, where as the super lesser is all white. The only mojaves I've seen that pull off a pure white leucistic are crossed with lessers.

    Not to mention the fact that the sulfur actually looks like a fire
  • 10-27-2008, 03:57 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Sulfurs??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    The mojave doesn't make a full on leucistic, though. Any super mojave I have ever seen has head markings that are a light brown to gray, where as the super lesser is all white. The only mojaves I've seen that pull off a pure white leucistic are crossed with lessers.

    Not to mention the fact that the sulfur actually looks like a fire

    Take a look at the pics on this thread and tell me if that looks like a fire to you?

    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=77455

    Looks a little darker to me. I guess only time will tell for sure.
  • 10-27-2008, 04:05 PM
    Oxylepy
    Re: Sulfurs??
    Actually it looks a lot darker. But I was looking at a lot of the other ones and they all seem to be lighter in colour than that one. And the super sulfur they have in that thread looks like the one from the other thread which was produced from a sulfur mojave crossed with a sulfur mojave so there is a chance the patching is caused by a mix of the mojave with the sulfur genes. However if that is seriously just the super form of the sulfur and any super sulfur that is formed will have those markings then it is definitely a different morph from the fires, as was said in many of those threads, only time will tell for sure whether it is just a slightly different type of fire or if it is infact a completely different morph (aka it's an entirely different gene mutation). I still want to see the outcome of a fire x sulfur. Perhaps by breeding the two different types of black eyed leucitics together.
  • 10-27-2008, 06:15 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Sulfurs??
    Actually most of the super fires also have those yellow patches. I believe that there are very few produced that have been all white, but I'm actually hoping that the sulfur line will produce more yellow patching then the fire line. I've already got snakes that will produce a pure white.
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