Sick Ball python results

Remember my thread on my rescue normal that got sick and died? Well, another rescue that came with her got sick and died shortly after she was droped. Here are the results:

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We received the final biopsy report from Zoo/Exotic Pathology services regarding your
snake Lucy. She was diagnosed with a combination of inflammatory diseases affecting
the lung, brain, and liver. It is possible that all three of these organs are interrelated
from a virus or bacteria.



No organisms (bacteria, fungi) were observed in the examined sections. Also, the
characteristic inclusion bodies observed with Boid Inclusion Body Disease (IBD) were
not observed. It is very unlikely that IBD is the cause of the snake's problems.



There are two diseases, Paramyxovirus and Chlamydiophila, which could have
potentially caused the clinical signs and histopathology changes observed. Testing for
these two diseases will require additional special stains and/or PCR DNA probes if you
want to pursue them. Generally, the viral disease (Paramyxovirus) exhibits an inclusion
body similar to that seen in IBD and these were not observed.



Unfortunately, no conclusions or definitive diagnosis has been obtained, but it appears
that a process other than trauma caused her deterioration. Based on what we know so
far, there would have been no other treatment (other than the prednisone) to correct the
observed physical abnormalities. If you have additionakl questions, please return an
email or call us at 770 424 5484 (830am-12noon, 130pm-530pm).

Thanks, Brad Wilson, DVM

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Gladly IBD is not the probable case. Dr.Del, I lied in chat, Bacteria was not the case. But I still think mites had a lot to do with it. Who knows how long they had the mites before I got them:rolleyes:

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=60813

Original thread

sick thread

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=63963

Thanks for posting that. Fascinating reading. To me, it seems to give a good picture of just how much we DON'T know regarding these animals and the diseases they may be susceptible to. I'd be very interested in learning more about the two diseases mentioned there...and if either of them are potentially transferrable via mites...or otherwise contagious.

Hopefully your Lesser was no where near these animals.

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Originally Posted by JLC

Thanks for posting that. Fascinating reading. To me, it seems to give a good picture of just how much we DON'T know regarding these animals and the diseases they may be susceptible to. I'd be very interested in learning more about the two diseases mentioned there...and if either of them are potentially transferrable via mites...or otherwise contagious.

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I agree, its scary how sudden and unpredicting it was. Ive tryed looking up the diseases with no luck.

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Originally Posted by TooManyToys

Hopefully your Lesser was no where near these animals.

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He wasnt, and is perfectly fine right now. Im almost positive it was because of all the trauma they went through before we got them/who they were housed with/ and most definitely mites. they were housed with a male as well, so it could be a STD?

Well, it seems to be a good thing that this was not IBD. But I would still want to go further and get to the bottom of things. I am sorry about your losses.

Paramyxovirus

I'm not sure, but that sounds similar to the name of the disease that Jen Harrison (hope I have that name right) had wipe out her collection. Or at least it might have been what was responsible. Last I read I think she still did not have a definitive answer. Are you familiar with that story? Does it seem similar to what you saw?

Scary stuff no matter what. I'd definitely want to go with further testing to find out for sure what it was, especially if there was any chance your other animals were exposed.

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Originally Posted by kc261

Paramyxovirus

I'm not sure, but that sounds similar to the name of the disease that Jen Harrison (hope I have that name right) had wipe out her collection. Or at least it might have been what was responsible. Last I read I think she still did not have a definitive answer. Are you familiar with that story? Does it seem similar to what you saw?

Scary stuff no matter what. I'd definitely want to go with further testing to find out for sure what it was, especially if there was any chance your other animals were exposed.

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I read the story and it does not match up to these. Both did not have any breathing/mouth problems.