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  • 04-30-2008, 10:44 PM
    SPJ
    Breeding Question - Good to Use - Yes/No?
    I want to go for bees this winter but I'm not sure if I should use this pastel or not. I like the high yellow bees and I am concerned this guy will not be up to the challenge.

    Should I use a different, more yellow pastel or take a chance with this one?

    I'd be really bummed out if I didn't get yellow bees.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../14729male.jpg
  • 04-30-2008, 10:59 PM
    Blue Apple Herps
    Re: Breeding Question - Good to Use - Yes/No?
    Are those his colors in real life? He looks pretty brown to me - on my monitor he looks almost axanthic like (which is why I'm wondering if maybe my monitor is "off"). Based on this picture I would question how yellow the bees would be.

    Do you have any other pastels that you currently own to choose from, or would you be hunting one down?
  • 04-30-2008, 11:04 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: Breeding Question - Good to Use - Yes/No?
    I wouldnt use him, have you seen the baby bees that have the grey look to them? If your going to make bees I say use the yellowest Lemon you can find!
  • 05-01-2008, 07:53 AM
    SPJ
    Re: Breeding Question - Good to Use - Yes/No?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blueapplepaste View Post
    Are those his colors in real life?

    Yes. That is pretty accurate.

    I have another typical more yellow one I could use that is the same size as this guy.
  • 05-01-2008, 09:43 AM
    muddoc
    Re: Breeding Question - Good to Use - Yes/No?
    I can tell you that the Mother of my Bees last year (she was a Pastel, and dad was a Spider) is probably oine of the brownest Pastels you will find, and my Bees were some of the best looking Bees I have seen. I ended up keeping a pair, and they are both still very bright at 500 + grams. I am not saying that you should not try to find the best Pastel and Spider that you can, but I think the Spider may also have alot to do with how the Bees turn out. My original Spider that produced our Bees is a very lite Spider, and reduced pattern. I can only think that he had a good bit to do with the quality of our Bees.

    Hope that helps,
  • 05-01-2008, 10:34 AM
    Blue Apple Herps
    Re: Breeding Question - Good to Use - Yes/No?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SPJ View Post
    Yes. That is pretty accurate.

    I have another typical more yellow one I could use that is the same size as this guy.

    If it were me, I'd go for the more yellow one then.
  • 05-01-2008, 10:59 AM
    broadude
    Re: Breeding Question - Good to Use - Yes/No?
    I would listen to the people that have been breeding longer. Their word carries more weight, in my opinion because they may have seen more outcomes.

    For instance, I haven't been breeding as long as some, so I may say based on my limited experience that the coloration of the parent is not a guarantee that the hatchlings coloration will follow suit.
  • 05-01-2008, 02:42 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Breeding Question - Good to Use - Yes/No?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blueapplepaste View Post
    Are those his colors in real life? He looks pretty brown to me - on my monitor he looks almost axanthic like (which is why I'm wondering if maybe my monitor is "off"). Based on this picture I would question how yellow the bees would be.

    Do you have any other pastels that you currently own to choose from, or would you be hunting one down?

    He looks like a axanthic to me also :O.Steve i would pass on using him if it was me ;)
  • 05-01-2008, 03:48 PM
    Tosha_Mc
    Re: Breeding Question - Good to Use - Yes/No?
    I think I told you on KS that I had one that is similar - here he is pictured next to a lemon of the same size - he's clearly not as yellow as the lemon - but comparatively cleaner looking in the brown out department.

    http://jetpythons.com/IMG_6269.JPG

    If you like a high yellow bumble it might not be the best choice - but then again what good is a high yellow bumble that browns out to ugly :weirdface

    Anyway - I bred him to both a hi yellow normal and a high gold spider this season - but I was aiming for a cleaner bumble over a yellow one - we'll see if or how it carries over. I think he'll make smashing pewters tho :D
  • 05-01-2008, 04:13 PM
    SPJ
    Re: Breeding Question - Good to Use - Yes/No?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tosha_Mc View Post
    I think I told you on KS that I had one that is similar - here he is pictured next to a lemon of the same size - he's clearly not as yellow as the lemon - but comparatively cleaner looking in the brown out department.

    http://jetpythons.com/IMG_6269.JPG

    If you like a high yellow bumble it might not be the best choice - but then again what good is a high yellow bumble that browns out to ugly :weirdface

    Anyway - I bred him to both a hi yellow normal and a high gold spider this season - but I was aiming for a cleaner bumble over a yellow one - we'll see if or how it carries over. I think he'll make smashing pewters tho :D

    Yep. You did. :D
    This guy would be awesome IMO if I had a female black pastel to use.
    A clean bee would be great as well but I like the contrast between the white sides and yellow back.
    Still have time to decide what to do.
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