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  • 04-29-2008, 11:31 PM
    kojack8389
    IBD?? opinions needed plz help
    So, I decided to get a new thread out in the public to hopefully get some more opinions about my snakes strange "twisting" behavior. I was introduced to possibly Inclusion Body Disease. Then I got nervous because the videos he shared look like the behavior of my Kojack which were titled "Inclusion Body Disease". Could it be that? Should I be concerned? Here are the pictures that I posted of his movements. I don't know of any specifics to give right now so if there are any questions to move towards a clear answer please let me know! I don't want this lingering over my head :(

    ps. like I said before, he's in motion and these AREN'T the greatest quality pictures

    pss. I don't mean to sound crazy...but I'm sure all of you could understand that he means a lot to me and I want him to be OK

    http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...9/IMG_0084.jpg

    http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...9/IMG_0088.jpg

    http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...9/IMG_0090.jpg

    http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...9/IMG_0083.jpg

    http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...9/IMG_0082.jpg
  • 04-29-2008, 11:33 PM
    kojack8389
    Re: IBD?? opinions needed plz help
    pss. PLEASE don't get on me about the enclosure! i'm working on it and I know that is a big thing that comes up when pictures are shared. But that's not my biggest concern atm :P
  • 04-29-2008, 11:37 PM
    TooManyToys
    Re: IBD?? opinions needed plz help
    Is that a spider? How often does it make the movements?
  • 04-29-2008, 11:39 PM
    kojack8389
    Re: IBD?? opinions needed plz help
    Yes he is a spider. He does it about every single night. Sometimes during the day but usually at night when he is most active. But they occur for sometimes HOURS like, he won't stop moving. And sometimes he looses his balance and gravity takes a hold on him and he drops his head to the ground. He also sometimes does the "gazing". He'll be sitting in his water bowl with his head upside down propped on the edge of the bowl looking dead. I know he's not but he's really good at playing it.
  • 04-29-2008, 11:39 PM
    joepythons
    Re: IBD?? opinions needed plz help
    How long have you had him? If he had IBD he would be dead within a month ;)
  • 04-29-2008, 11:40 PM
    starmom
    Re: IBD?? opinions needed plz help
    Did you get your snake from a reputable breeder? It's really hard to tell with pictures, but the movements do seem pretty exaggerated. Can you 'snap' the snake out of it? Does the snake seem really out of it? Remember, IBD is a neurological disease and is always fatal and will kill the snake quickly. If you have any other snakes you need to really make strict QT procedures.
    Ya know, I've seen youtube clips of snakes with IBD, but have never seen a snake with it 'in person'.
    I think if I were in your shoes, I'd forward your pictures to the breeder and ask him or her about this. :oops:
  • 04-29-2008, 11:41 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: IBD?? opinions needed plz help
    Its a spider! Most of them do that!!
  • 04-29-2008, 11:41 PM
    waltah!
    Re: IBD?? opinions needed plz help
    Looks to me like a Spider with a bad case of the "wobbles". If that's the case then it's actually pretty common among spiders. It's not for anyone to say from a few pics that it could be anything else. IBD can only be determined via necropsy. I'm sure others will weigh in here on this, but it looks like the wobbles to me. You will also see it called "spinning". Due a search and you should find other pics and videos with examples.
  • 04-29-2008, 11:43 PM
    kojack8389
    Re: IBD?? opinions needed plz help
    I have had him since February and I think he's been doing that since I've gotten him..so that's what makes me curious. But his movements are REALLY exaggeratted. I've never really tried to 'snap' him out of it but he does to seem to be in a daze. And I don't have any other snakes to worry about so that is good :) He is my first and only so I can't fail him!!
  • 04-29-2008, 11:43 PM
    starmom
    Re: IBD?? opinions needed plz help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JASBALLS View Post
    Its a spider! Most of them do that!!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by waltah! View Post
    Looks to me like a Spider with a bad case of the "wobbles". If that's the case then it's actually pretty common among spiders. It's not for anyone to say from a few pics that it could be anything else. IBD can only be determined via necropsy. I'm sure others will weigh in here on this, but it looks like the wobbles to me. You will also see it called "spinning". Due a search and you should find other pics and videos with examples.

    Do you guys really think so? The movements seems really really exaggerated :O
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