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Pastel to Granite

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  • 04-28-2008, 08:20 PM
    gkoserjr
    Pastel to Granite
    What would you get from breeding a Pastel (co dom)and Granite (dom ?) ?
  • 04-29-2008, 03:22 PM
    DoGood
    Re: Pastel to Granite
    each egg would have a 50% chance of being pastel, and a 50% chance of being pastel-granite. I think....
  • 04-29-2008, 03:45 PM
    gkoserjr
    Re: Pastel to Granite
    Thanks dogood...I am new to thiswhole snake genetics thing and had no idea what you would get when breeding a co dom to a dominant
  • 04-29-2008, 04:12 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: Pastel to Granite
    WELL....

    If they Granite is Dom, then all the animals would be Granite, and 50% of those would be pastel.
  • 04-29-2008, 04:40 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Pastel to Granite
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gkoserjr View Post
    What would you get from breeding a Pastel (co dom)and Granite (dom ?) ?

    I think at least one line of granites have been proven to be co-doms. Either way, a heterozygous granite x heterozygous pastel should produce 25% normal, 25% pastels, 25% granites and 25% granite pastels.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    WELL....

    If they Granite is Dom, then all the animals would be Granite, and 50% of those would be pastel.

    That's incorrect. Assuming the dominant animal isn't a homozygoat, the numbers above are correct. A spider is a dom trait, but breeding a spider to a pastel doesn't give you half bees and half spiders. You will always get the 25% rates across the board for all four possable phenotypes when dealing with dom or co-dom traits.
  • 04-29-2008, 04:58 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: Pastel to Granite
    I stand corrected.

    My real question is, what line of Granites out there are dominant?
  • 04-29-2008, 07:14 PM
    gkoserjr
    Re: Pastel to Granite
    This was in the hunters guide to morphs posted on this site.
    Genetics: Most Granites at this time are not proven or not genetic. Some have proved out to be Dominant, and we are waiting on 2 lines to see if they are Co- dominant ( Waiting to find out if there is a super form) ....thats why i put a question mark on my original post, because i wasnt sure myself
  • 04-29-2008, 07:16 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: Pastel to Granite
    The only line I know of that is co-dom is Ralph Davis's.

    Other than that, I'm not aware.

    Camlon has a line, but I am not sure of the genetics behind it.
  • 04-29-2008, 07:32 PM
    gkoserjr
    Re: Pastel to Granite
    so then reguardless of what morphs if you breed a co dom to dom
    then you would get 25% across the board...is this correct?
    And co dom to co dom should be 50 - 50
  • 04-29-2008, 07:44 PM
    ctrlfreq
    Re: Pastel to Granite
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gkoserjr View Post
    so then reguardless of what morphs if you breed a co dom to dom then you would get 25% across the board...

    It has nothing to do with dominant/co-dominant, it's about heterozygous and homozygous. Two animals that are heterozygous for two separate genes will produce 25% each of normal, het for gene A, het for gene B, and het for both A & B.

    Dominant, co-dominant, and recessive speak to the nature of the gene itself, and only deals with the way the gene expresses itself in each combination.

    Dominant - Both heterozygous and homozygous look the same -- neither appear "normal".

    Co-Dominant - The heterozygous and homozygous versions look different from each-other -- neither appear "normal".

    Recessive - Only the homozygous version appears different -- heterozygous animals look "normal".
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