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Dimmer Help

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  • 03-31-2008, 01:02 AM
    Warm-blooded
    Dimmer Help
    So I was at Walmart today, looking at dimmers to hook up to the UTH... All I could find was someting like this and bought it
    http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...n33/dimmer.jpg
    but in hindsight, maybe I should of got something more like this:confused:
    http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...33/dimmer2.jpg
    anyhow, is there a way I could take the dimmer in the first pic and splice it into the UTH wires...esp. seeing how I opened it allready...and if so, how/is there a link someone could show me.
    Or is the first one worthless and thus am I forced to go w/ the second, and if so can those be found.
    Thanks in advance,
    Warm-blooded.
    Also, I do plan on getting a thermostat later (1-2 months), but right now I am a little unexpectedly low on cash :(
  • 03-31-2008, 01:15 AM
    Gloryhound
    Re: Dimmer Help
    You could make the first one work, but I would be leary of trying to post a step by step without having the dimmer to take pictures with. But you will need a simple house hold extension cord, an electrical box to mount the dimmer in, a face plate for added safety if it did not come with one, and some basic electrical tools.
  • 03-31-2008, 02:00 AM
    Warm-blooded
    Re: Dimmer Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gloryhound View Post
    But you will need a simple house hold extension cord, an electrical box to mount the dimmer in, a face plate for added safety if it did not come with one, and some basic electrical tools.

    The extension cord is a much better and simplier idea :gj:to mount it on thanks, I didn't even think of that and I have lots of those. I'll have to get a faceplate, electrical box, and as far as electrical tools I know theres wire cutters, strippers, and connectors laying around here, if thats all I need?...
    Anyhow, here is the exact one I am working with if it helps
    http://www.jascoproducts.com/product...&idproduct=267
    Thanks!
  • 03-31-2008, 02:30 AM
    Gloryhound
    Re: Dimmer Help
    Basically you should only have to cut one side (one of the wires in the extension cord). Use a pocket knife or utility knife and split the two wires apart around the center of the cord over a 1' section, pick one of the two and cut it in the middle of the length seperated from the other wire, and feed it into the electrical box through a romex type knock out. (Little "D" shaped peices of metal with a slot cut in them that you just stick a screw driver in the slot and pry and twist and it should snap off.)

    Depending on what you see on the back of the dimmer switch follow option A if brass screw terminals are seen and option B if 3 color coded wires are hanging out of the back of the dimmer.

    (option A)Then the one wire you cut should be stripped and go on the two brass colored terminals. They may be marked supply and load or something similar. If they are the side of the cord going to the pronged plug is supply and the side with the female part of the plug is the load. Don't worry about the ground screw as what you are making is a plug in device instead of a fixed device, so the electrical code requiring the grounding of dimmer switches do not apply to your application.

    (Option B)If you have wires hanging out of the back instead of screw terminals they should be color coded Black, Red, and Green. Tie the Black to the prong side wire and wire nut it together (Orange Wire nut) by screwing the wire nut down on the two wires twisted together. Then the female plug side goes to the red wire and again put a wire nut (Orange wire nut) on it. Then cut the green wire just so the factory stripped section is gone and try to put a wire nut on it, if a wire nut will not go on it just wrap it up in elecrical tape.

    In the inside back of the box should be some sort of screw with a piece of metal that you screw the screw down and it clamps down on the wire and holds it in place. Use it!

    Then mount the dimmer to the box using the screws on the top and bottom and put the face plate on.

    Test it out on a lamp or something to make sure it is working correctly.

    Hope this helps! I could be a lot clearer with pictures, but I don't have them.
  • 03-31-2008, 03:04 PM
    Warm-blooded
    Re: Dimmer Help
    Thank you so far for the help,and that description really helps, but I have a problem, looking at my dimmer, it has two black wires and a green...so which one do I treat as red?
    Thanks
  • 03-31-2008, 03:08 PM
    slobra232V
    Re: Dimmer Help
    green = ground

    the two black wires will spice into the red wire currently being used

    - one black wire to the power coming in
    - one black wire going out to the heater
  • 03-31-2008, 04:28 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Dimmer Help
    Uhhhh wouldn't it just be easier to return the first dimmer and get the proper dimmer? :)
  • 03-31-2008, 04:35 PM
    max123
    Re: Dimmer Help
    If you use a 2 pronged cord get a plastic box not a metal one.
  • 03-31-2008, 04:35 PM
    JeffFlanagan
    Re: Dimmer Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno View Post
    Uhhhh wouldn't it just be easier to return the first dimmer and get the proper dimmer? :)

    I think it would be better to return the dimmer and buy a proportional thermostat. A dimmer is a poor substitute.
  • 03-31-2008, 05:12 PM
    ctrlfreq
    Re: Dimmer Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Warm-blooded View Post
    is there a way I could take the dimmer in the first pic and splice it into the UTH wires...esp. seeing how I opened it allready

    You can, but it doesn't mean you should :twisted:

    Even if you're wanting a rheostat for now, I would take that one back and get one that gives you some visible indication of the power level (ie. the slider on your second picture).
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