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  • 12-18-2007, 07:39 AM
    jessie_k_pythons
    During my absence from BP.net
    Well as you can see I'm back. I know I was gone for quite a while. I had a terrible loss happen to me.

    I lost my whole collection to IBD

    When I had a few of my boys up for sale a local woman contacted me and wanted to see the snakes that same day. She came by later that afternoon and held some of the snakes and the topic of care and her experience with BPs came up. She told me that he had a bp but it died. when I asked when she told me the day before and she took it to the vet right before she came to my place for biopsy. When I asked what the symptioms were I cringed. every thing she said pointed to IBD. I calmly took my snake from her and asked her to leave.

    months later Angel was the first to go down hill. I had her and 2 others in quarinteen but it wasnt enough to stop them all from getting it. once Angel died, the rest shortly followed. tests came back positive for IBD and I dont think i will own another python or boa for as long as I live. I dont think I can go through that again.

    Thanks for letting me get this out and I'm sorry if I dammpened the holiday mood for some of you.


    (if this thread needs to go into off topic then move it... I didnt know where to put it. Thanks, Jess)
  • 12-18-2007, 07:56 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: During my absence from BP.net
    I'm very sorry to read of this Jessie. I was under the impression however that IBD kills in a very short time period so "months later" might indicate it had nothing to do with that lady's visit to your home. Hard to say really.

    It is a wake up call though to not allow just anyone to handle your collection. Mike and I made a determination a number of months back to close our BP room to visitors. While we might allow the very occasional person to hold a snake outside of the BP room, and will still do our school visits when we can, we no longer take just anyone in to see the ball pythons as we once would have done.
  • 12-18-2007, 08:00 AM
    jessie_k_pythons
    Re: During my absence from BP.net
    Yes that is a very good idea. as for the IBD I guess I will never know. That was the only person I came in contact with that had a snake let alone one with possible IBD.

    I now have something that takes up my time in a good way. A male Eastern Box turtle that I rescued and he has kept my mind of the loss.
  • 12-18-2007, 08:27 AM
    Laooda
    Re: During my absence from BP.net
    Sooooooo sorry to her about your loss... *huggs*
  • 12-18-2007, 08:31 AM
    NightLad
    Re: During my absence from BP.net
    They say you can go to school for an education, but you can't learn common sense.

    This lady dropped off her ill snake to the vet one day, and then came to your house to handle yours the next? That isn't just a lack of common sense, that is a lack of a brain. Or maybe just a complete disregard for any other person and what they care for. Its like a parent who drops their kid off in kindergarten with a temperature of 103 instead of vising the hospital, nevermind that the other children will get ill and perhaps their parents and siblings, too.

    Ug. I'm so sorry for your losses. I truly am. What a terrible thing to happen. But I do thank you for your strength in coming here to share the story, so that others may learn from it and avoid any similar experiences in the future. Let that hope be the lasting legacy of your little guys and gals here on earth.
  • 12-18-2007, 10:02 AM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: During my absence from BP.net
    Wow, I'm sorry to hear this. What species of animal did you have? Just BP's? This is an unfortunate thing, and hopefully it will teach others that good quarantine is an absolute necessity in any collection. Be it 5 or 500. My condelences. :hug:
  • 12-18-2007, 10:18 AM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: During my absence from BP.net
    Here is a link in case anyone would like further reading on Inclusion Body Disease. (IBD)
    Merck Veterinary Manual -IBD
  • 12-18-2007, 10:27 AM
    joepythons
    Re: During my absence from BP.net
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jessie_k_pythons View Post
    Well as you can see I'm back. I know I was gone for quite a while. I had a terrible loss happen to me.

    I lost my whole collection to IBD

    When I had a few of my boys up for sale a local woman contacted me and wanted to see the snakes that same day. She came by later that afternoon and held some of the snakes and the topic of care and her experience with BPs came up. She told me that he had a bp but it died. when I asked when she told me the day before and she took it to the vet right before she came to my place for biopsy. When I asked what the symptioms were I cringed. every thing she said pointed to IBD. I calmly took my snake from her and asked her to leave.

    months later Angel was the first to go down hill. I had her and 2 others in quarinteen but it wasnt enough to stop them all from getting it. once Angel died, the rest shortly followed. tests came back positive for IBD and I dont think i will own another python or boa for as long as I live. I dont think I can go through that again.

    Thanks for letting me get this out and I'm sorry if I dammpened the holiday mood for some of you.


    (if this thread needs to go into off topic then move it... I didnt know where to put it. Thanks, Jess)

    Jessie sorry to hear this :(.
  • 12-18-2007, 10:50 AM
    jessie_k_pythons
    Re: During my absence from BP.net
    Thank you all. it was very hard for me to come here and admit that this had happened. I dont like to admit failure, or show flaws. (even though I do a lot) But this was important to tell and I took a risk in being ridiculed on a public forum for my lack of knowledge to keep you and your animals safe from something like this.

    It is comforting to see that you all understand my pain.

    as for the snakes that I had they were all pythons and one of them was my jungle x coastal carpet, the rest were ball pythons.
  • 12-18-2007, 11:17 AM
    juddb
    Re: During my absence from BP.net
    Thats horrible man. Very sorry for your animals, no telling what i would do if that happened to me. Good luck
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