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  • 12-12-2007, 06:10 PM
    giaach
    Hey look what I did today bc everyone suggested it
    So today I went out a got a small plastic tub, a brand new Acu-rite thermometer/hydrometer and a rheostat for the UTH. I placed the probe for the warm side on the bottom of the tub, stuck to the plastic. I figured whatever the temp was on the plastic surface, the temp on the surface of the substrate would be about 3-5 degrees cooler. I also made two smaller hides out of some cardboard.
    Here are some images of the set-up...
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...212071656a.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...212071655a.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...212071655b.jpg
  • 12-12-2007, 06:18 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Hey look what I did today bc everyone suggested it
    Looks good. I would use some dabs of hot glue instead of the tape. Snakes can get it stuck to them and it can damage eyes and scales.
  • 12-12-2007, 06:20 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Hey look what I did today bc everyone suggested it
    Looks really good! Now leave her alone for a week and try dropping a live hopper in with her and walk away. Check back in 30 minutes and he should be gone!
  • 12-12-2007, 06:21 PM
    giaach
    Re: Hey look what I did today bc everyone suggested it
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PythonWallace View Post
    Looks good. I would use some dabs of hot glue instead of the tape. Snakes can get it stuck to them and it can damage eyes and scales.

    those two pieces of tape are really secure I made sure...
  • 12-12-2007, 06:22 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Hey look what I did today bc everyone suggested it
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by giaach View Post
    those two pieces of tape are really secure I made sure...

    Keep an eye on them, once the humidity hits them, they will start to loosen.
  • 12-12-2007, 06:27 PM
    giaach
    Re: Hey look what I did today bc everyone suggested it
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    Looks really good! Now leave her alone for a week and try dropping a live hopper in with her and walk away. Check back in 30 minutes and he should be gone!

    I'll keep an eye on that tape. But I'm having a really hard time finding live pinkys or hoppers... All I can find are live adults.
  • 12-12-2007, 06:27 PM
    ADEE
    Re: Hey look what I did today bc everyone suggested it
    i agree on the boxes and using tape.. you can get small plastic plant lids pretty cheap, and the boxes will get ruined when they go to the bathroom.

    Good job on making the switch, get ready for a happier snake!

    p.s. you might want to invest in some binder clips to secure the lid, when the snakes gets older (ans stronger) will be able to push the lid off
  • 12-12-2007, 06:34 PM
    giaach
    Re: Hey look what I did today bc everyone suggested it
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AshleyB View Post
    i agree on the boxes and using tape.. you can get small plastic plant lids pretty cheap, and the boxes will get ruined when they go to the bathroom.

    Good job on making the switch, get ready for a happier snake!

    p.s. you might want to invest in some binder clips to secure the lid, when the snakes gets older (ans stronger) will be able to push the lid off

    I found plastic plant lids (6") but since there round they take up the whole tub, no room for water... and the lid locks (i have a hard time opening it haha), and besides once she's comfortable and has had at least 5 steady meals Im gonna move her back into the 10 gal tank.
  • 12-12-2007, 06:51 PM
    2kdime
    Re: Hey look what I did today bc everyone suggested it
    Stick to the tub!!! Less stress from all the acclumations to new enclosures!!! Better humidity control. Better temp stability.

    Also get rid of all that tape. I'm serious. I don't care how strong its on there. My girl got caught on some. And took an ass load of scales off. I'm hoping she can shed through the disaster I put her through. No tape!!!!!

    Also go to walmart. To the pet section. The dog water bowl area. They're called crock brand water bowls. Low profile. Heavy duty. Cheap. And dark!! Melt a hole in the side with a soldering iron and your good to go!!!

    Hope my reply and experience helps out.
  • 12-12-2007, 09:49 PM
    ADEE
    Re: Hey look what I did today bc everyone suggested it
    I second keeping the snake in the bin.. its not as pleasing on the eyes but overall so much better for the snake... besides a 10gal isnt good for their whole lives anyway, at least bins can be replaced and upsized for a small fee.

    YOU may think the bin lid is secure but they are strong and can get out of tight places.. I actually have a locking lid (it has handles that snap over the top of the lid) and i still use 4 binder clips, two on each side. the ends might be secure but i challange you to try lifting the middle of the lid from the actual bin and see what happens. I have yet to find a bin whose lid doesnt have at least a 1/2" gap.. and thats enough for any juvinile ball to get out of.. just a word of warning. its the worst feeling in the world to have a missing snake. I have actually purchased and returned the EXACT bin you have for the reason i listed above. Also keep a close eye on your humidity with having so few air holes.. i have found it better to have the holes along the side of the bin for air flow and humidity.. but thats me, to each his own

    Dont count on the temp for the top of the bedding to be cooler.. the snakes have a good habit of moving bedding around and getting their bellys in direct contact with the bottom of the bin, thats why we use papertowels or newspaper here..

    I never ever use tape on anything inside the enclosure. my temp gauge came with a suction cup that secures the actual probe.. you really should consider finding another way to secure it.. for the good of the animal.

    As for the hides, I picked up two matching

    http://www.undergroundreptiles.com/hideboxes.htm

    basic black hide boxes, they work perfect!! They are inexpensive too depending on where you get them from. They have served my snakes well.. I started off using the planter trays and didnt like them very well, these were my alternative. They dont take up much space at all, are pretty uniform and very easy to clean..

    There is alot of wonderful suggestions here.. i highly suggest you consider them. The people here really helped me in the beginning. I have never had an issue with temps, humidity, feeding, growth, stress or shed since i started using bins.. no joke!

    also, as far as feeding goes. since you cant find hoppers and otherwise small rats why dont you try using mice until you can find the size that suits your snake. you can also consider purchasing frozen feeders from various places online..

    sorry this got so lengthly, trying to help out.
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