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  • 11-30-2007, 12:25 PM
    ladywhipple02
    Axanthic and Anerytheristic... and true Ghosts
    So, I have a question:

    In relation to BPs vs. boas and corns, what's the difference between the Axanthic gene and the Anerytheristic gene? Both genes produce a completely black and white snake. They both, therefore, inhibit the yellows, browns, reds, grays, etc. So what's the difference?

    And moving on from that... if a true ghost in the snake world is defined as being a Hypo by Anerytheristic crossing---and there is no difference between the anerytheristic gene and the axanthic gene---wouldn't a Hypo by Axanthic cross in the BP world mean producing a true "ghost"?

    And isn't the term "ghost" referring to a hypo snake therefore incorrect?

    Also, has anyone produced an Axanthic Hypo (which I guess would be called an Axanthic ghost)? I want to see one! :D
  • 11-30-2007, 12:29 PM
    Purrrfect9
    Re: Axanthic and Anerytheristic... and true Ghosts
    Not gonna lie... I just woke up and reading this post made my brain explode, even though I know what all of that ment... Give me a couple more hopurs and some coffee/Mt. Dew and I'll see if I can help with this, lol.
  • 11-30-2007, 12:40 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Axanthic and Anerytheristic... and true Ghosts
    Quote:

    So, I have a question:

    In relation to BPs vs. boas and corns, what's the difference between the Axanthic gene and the Anerytheristic gene? Both genes produce a completely black and white snake. They both, therefore, inhibit the yellows, browns, reds, grays, etc. So what's the difference?
    Anerytheristic restricts the animals ability to produce the "red" pigment.
    Axanthic restricts the animals ability to produce the yellow pigment.

    Because the wild type ball doen't produce "red" pigment as seen in boas and corns anerythistic isn't a mutation that would effect the look of the base animal.


    Quote:

    And moving on from that... if a true ghost in the snake world is defined as being a Hypo by Anerytheristic crossing---and there is no difference between the anerytheristic gene and the axanthic gene---wouldn't a Hypo by Axanthic cross in the BP world mean producing a true "ghost"?
    Yes a homozygous Hypo axanthic is a true ghost. There is a defference in Anerytheristic and axanthic. People that deal with balls have been over the last couple of years moving away form the "Ghost" and more to the Hypo description when labeling the animals that are simply hypomelanistic in nature

    Quote:

    And isn't the term "ghost" referring to a hypo snake therefore incorrect?
    Not incorrect.. They could have named it the "flying purple people eater" and thats what its name would be. It was named Ghost cause thats what the original breeder wished to call it

    Quote:

    Also, has anyone produced an Axanthic Hypo (which I guess would be called an Axanthic ghost)? I want to see one! :D
    I think theres one or two running around out there but I could be wrong
  • 11-30-2007, 12:46 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: Axanthic and Anerytheristic... and true Ghosts
    I was under the assumption that a true 'ghost' would be a t- albino and an axanthic.
  • 11-30-2007, 12:46 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Axanthic and Anerytheristic... and true Ghosts
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by littleindiangirl View Post
    I was under the assumption that a true 'ghost' would be a t- albino and an axanthic.

    Thats a snow.. :D
  • 11-30-2007, 12:47 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: Axanthic and Anerytheristic... and true Ghosts
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    Thats a snow.. :D

    Right. I would consider that a true ghost as hypomelanisitic is more of a dilution...
  • 11-30-2007, 12:49 PM
    ladywhipple02
    Re: Axanthic and Anerytheristic... and true Ghosts
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    Thats a snow.. :D

    And I want me one of those too lol!

    Thanks for the info... It would be really great to see a true ghost. I'm all about the ghost genes, I think they make some of the prettiest snakes. :gj:
  • 11-30-2007, 12:51 PM
    ladywhipple02
    Re: Axanthic and Anerytheristic... and true Ghosts
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by littleindiangirl View Post
    Right. I would consider that a true ghost as hypomelanisitic is more of a dilution...

    Guess that goes back to the whole point... people will call their animals whatever they wish.

    The snow is just a traditional label, as is the ghost. I guess I was just trying to clarify that, in the BP world, a ghost isn't a ghost in the traditional sense, but should be called a hypo... and a true ghost is a hypo by axanthic.
  • 11-30-2007, 12:53 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: Axanthic and Anerytheristic... and true Ghosts
    Well, how can a true ghost be a hypo axanthic? There isnt a definition of ghost anywhere, it all comes back to whatever we want to call it.
  • 11-30-2007, 12:55 PM
    ladywhipple02
    Re: Axanthic and Anerytheristic... and true Ghosts
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by littleindiangirl View Post
    Well, how can a true ghost be a hypo axanthic? There isnt a definition of ghost anywhere, it all comes back to whatever we want to call it.

    Rock on! Exactly :gj:

    It just follows the traditional standard.
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