Re: Appropriate Tub Size?
For huge female's or breeding pairs i would consider moving her into a 41 qt tub.:gj:
Re: Appropriate Tub Size?
Babies are in a 6qt will about 200 grams then they go to a 15qt (which is a 32 qt split in half) till they are 500-600 grams my males live 100% of their lives in 32 qt tubs. I don't move females till they get over 1200 grams. I offer all my animals in 15-41qt tubs a hide the 6qt tubs are close enough they don't need one.
hope that helps
Re: Appropriate Tub Size?
We all do it a bit differently but this is how I do it
Up to 500 grams – 15 Quarts (16 3/8"L x 11 1/2"W x 5 7/8"H)
Up to 1500 grams – 32 Quarts (23 1/2"L x 16 1/4"W x 6 3/8"H)
Above 1500 grams – 41 Quarts (34 3/4"L x 16 1/2"W x 6"H)
Re: Appropriate Tub Size?
dunno how its possible to fit 2 hides and a water dish in such small tubs?? Id like to see some pics of your tubs to see how you manage it.
Hatchlings - 60-66qt tub (green hides switched out with black zillas)
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../7/3/tubs1.jpg
500-1000g - 96qt tub (2 hides in each tub)
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../7/3/tubs2.jpg
1000+ - custom 4x2 cage.
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../7/3/tubs3.jpg
Re: Appropriate Tub Size?
-hatchling up to about 250g - 6qt tub, 1 hide, 1 2" water bowl
-juvie up to about 1000g - 15qt tub, 1 hide, 1 3" water bowl
-1000-1500g, and males permanently - 32qt tub, 1 hide, 1 4-5" water bowl
-1500+ females - 41qt tub, 1 hide, 1 6-8" water bowl(or bigger depending on if they have a fetish for tipping the bowl)
And Josh, I know we've been over this before, but once you hatch your own babies, you'll find that they thrive better in the shoebox tubs, especially when you have to deal with non-eaters. If you get the 70qt+ tub that is the long underbed box, even that is plenty of room for even the biggest of adult female Balls. They have no need for those taller tubs that require extra heat to heat up all that air space.
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becky whats the difference between a hatchling someone else hatched and mailed to me... or me hatching one myself? Theyhave no need for taller tubs? What about like when theyre awake at night and wanna move around? ALL 9 of my snakes use the plastic climbing things I provide them so I dont think your statement about "no use for them" is correct.
Pigsnpythons - I know your looking for advice but move them when you feel they need larger enclosures. Theres nothing set in stone saying "if its this big it needs to be in this big of an enclosure" Play with it yourself and youll figure out what works best for you
Re: Appropriate Tub Size?
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JoshJP7
dunno how its possible to fit 2 hides and a water dish in such small tubs?? Id like to see some pics of your tubs to see how you manage it.
I usually don’t do picture on demand but since I am in the middle of cleaning I might as well do so.
This is a 15 quarts tubs 2 hides 1 water dish, I don’t usually use 2 hides, just one 1 in my rack (and yes I know I always recommend 2 but this is another story)
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...Other/Tub1.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...Other/Tub2.jpg
This is the newest arrival (200+ grams) and I still use 2 hides for him (first pic is the actual setup, second pic to show bigger hides). He can slither on the top of his hides without any issue meaning the whole space of the 15 quarts tub is being used.
This tub is for sub-adult (32 quarts) only one hide being used
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tEnclosure.jpg
All are healthy, eating (never experienced fast) growing like weeds and stress free.
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Thanks for the pics... I dont disagree that you can keep a snake healthy and happy in small tubs but you dont think adding more space is a good idea? I see how much my snakes actually use the extra space and I think its great for exercise. I use the rule 1ft of tub for every 1ft of snake. If your snakes 3ft your tubs 3ft long... Most people say a snake needs 2/3 of its length... I say it needs all of it. I picked up a 1000g male a couple weeks ago... tossed him in a custom enclosure which was probably 3 times the size of his old one... he hid in his hide for the first couple nights and now hes out every night crawling all over the place. You think the snakes thinking "ahhh yes nice n tight just the way i like it"... I think hes saying "god damn it i cant even move in this thing!"... I guess our different perspectives lead us to different methods of keeping snakes... Since theres no "BP government" or study on "BP living conditions" we'll never know which one is "better."
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Ok wow, thanks everybody! Right now I have my two biggest (1200 g and 450 g) in a 32 qt and all of my others (all under 400 g) in a 15 qt. It sounds like they are all fine where they are for now. I guess my next move will be finding my biggest girl a 41 qt tub. Thanks again!