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Mojave Pinstripe!!!

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  • 07-12-2007, 03:07 PM
    bait4snake
    Mojave Pinstripe!!!
    Has anyone made these yet? Any pictures? Are they anything like the Kingpins or Butterpins?
  • 07-12-2007, 03:11 PM
    NickMyers03
    Re: Mojave Pinstripe!!!
    ...they are the same as the butter pins, and the king pins...but the mojave pins also called the JIGSAW ball which was posted on here is not as light as the others

    edit: wrong name of breeder
  • 07-12-2007, 03:16 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Mojave Pinstripe!!!
    Heres a good pic of it.
    http://vpi.com/brag/jigsaw_ball_python
  • 07-13-2007, 12:41 AM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: Mojave Pinstripe!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog


    Very cool! Thanks for the visual!
  • 07-13-2007, 12:28 PM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: Mojave Pinstripe!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NickMyers03
    ...they are the same as the butter pins, and the king pins...but the mojave pins also called the JIGSAW ball which was posted on here is not as light as the others

    edit: wrong name of breeder


    They look nothing like the lesser/butter pin.
    Here is a pic of one of Ralphs King pins
    http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/pfan151/kp.jpg

    and this is the mohave/pin
    http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...151/jigsaw.jpg
  • 07-13-2007, 01:56 PM
    DragonBalls
    Re: Mojave Pinstripe!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pfan151
    They look nothing like the lesser/butter pin.
    Here is a pic of one of Ralphs King pins
    http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/pfan151/kp.jpg

    and this is the mohave/pin
    http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...151/jigsaw.jpg

    I hear the copyright police coming!!! :rolleyes:
  • 07-13-2007, 02:10 PM
    mricyfire
    Re: Mojave Pinstripe!!!
    correct me if i am wrong. But Butters, Lessers, and Mojaves are all basically the same snake...just different hues in their coloration.

    These 3 snakes when bred to each other will all give the same super form BELs and from what I know to get a super you have to breed two like snakes with each other...

    Butter x Lesser = BEL
    Butter x Butter = BEL
    Butter x Mojave = BEL
    Lesser x Lesser = BEL
    Lesser x Mojave = BEL
    Mojave x Mojave = BEL

    So that would make the Kingpin and a Mojave Pin the same, just slight difference in coloration.
  • 07-13-2007, 02:24 PM
    NickMyers03
    Re: Mojave Pinstripe!!!
    yes you are correct on them being the same gene ( well sort of)

    on the note of them looking nothing alike, when have you seen 2 balls from the same clutch look exactly alike color wise? look at RDR's birthing record when he produced the king pins every one is a diffrent color. the pinstripe used for the mojave pin may have not had the stripe down the back as some do which might have been genetic causing this mojave pin to look diffrent. i would want to see more of these animals to say if they do or do not look alike. the lesser pins might be lighter in color( as they do with any morph combined with ) but they are the same base.
  • 07-13-2007, 03:04 PM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: Mojave Pinstripe!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NickMyers03
    yes you are correct on them being the same gene ( well sort of)

    on the note of them looking nothing alike, when have you seen 2 balls from the same clutch look exactly alike color wise? look at RDR's birthing record when he produced the king pins every one is a diffrent color. the pinstripe used for the mojave pin may have not had the stripe down the back as some do which might have been genetic causing this mojave pin to look diffrent. i would want to see more of these animals to say if they do or do not look alike. the lesser pins might be lighter in color( as they do with any morph combined with ) but they are the same base.

    RDR has produced MANY king pins and they all look very similar. None of them look anything like the mohave pins. There is not one mohave combo that looks the same as a lesser/butter combo.

    You said:
    "...they are the same as the butter pins, and the king pins...but the mojave pins also called the JIGSAW ball which was posted on here is not as light as the others"

    Then you said:
    "i would want to see more of these animals to say if they do or do not look alike."

    Which is it?
  • 07-13-2007, 03:12 PM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: Mojave Pinstripe!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mricyfire
    Butter x Lesser = BEL
    Butter x Butter = BEL
    Butter x Mojave = BEL
    Lesser x Lesser = BEL
    Lesser x Mojave = BEL
    Mojave x Mojave = BEL

    So that would make the Kingpin and a Mojave Pin the same, just slight difference in coloration.

    Lesser x lesser and mohave x mohave do not make the same super. A lesser x mohave super also looks different than a pure lesser Lucy. The Lesser/butter seems to affect the pattern of the pin when crossed, and the mohave does not appear to. I would think having a totally different pattern as well as a different color would make them different? The mohave is obviously related to the lesser/butter because they can create a some what white snake when bred together but calling them the same is incorrect IMO.
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