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How do I start to breed morphs?
Hi guys, hope you can help. I recently bought a female normal bp. She is completely normal, no het (?) as far as I am aware. I would love to breed her but want to get some morphs from her, possibly caramels or spiders. Is this possible? What sort of male would I need to breed her with in order to do this?
Thanks for your help.
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Re: How do I start to breed morphs?
to get spiders from her you would need to buy a spider male. they are co dom and will produce half spider and have normals when bred to a normal
to get a caramel you would have to get a caramel male and breed her to it then wait for the female babies to grow up which would be 100% hets and breed the dad to the daughters
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Re: How do I start to breed morphs?
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Originally Posted by aubrey
Hi guys, hope you can help. I recently bought a female normal bp. She is completely normal, no het (?) as far as I am aware. I would love to breed her but want to get some morphs from her, possibly caramels or spiders. Is this possible? What sort of male would I need to breed her with in order to do this?
Thanks for your help.
The only way to get morphs in a clutch from a normal is breed a co/ dom or dom morphed animal to her. Spider is an option but caramel is a 3 year + deal. Depends on how much time your willing to invest.
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Re: How do I start to breed morphs?
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Originally Posted by aubrey
Hi guys, hope you can help. I recently bought a female normal bp. She is completely normal, no het (?) as far as I am aware. I would love to breed her but want to get some morphs from her, possibly caramels or spiders. Is this possible? What sort of male would I need to breed her with in order to do this?
Thanks for your help.
It's a little more complicated than that. Generally you have two different types of morphs: recessive and codominant (or dominant). Recessive morphs need a pair of genes in order to become visual, and with codom or dominant morphs they only need one gene from a parent. If you want to produce visual morphs with your normal girl, you will need to breed her to a codom or dominant male such as a spider, pinstripe, cinny/black pastel, pastel, yellow belly, etc. Here is a link that explains it visually: http://ballpythons.ca/genetics.html
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Re: How do I start to breed morphs?
Ok, thanks thats helpful. I don't want to go down the route of caramel breeding babies with dad etc, I would like to get some visual morphs from my first clutch. Spider certainly sounds like a good option and I really like them.
Could I just opt for a normal male visual spider to breed with her or would he need to be a het spider? Please forgive my ignorance, I'm very new to all of this!
The next question is would I have to buy a male spider or are there people who would let me breed my normal female with their spider male for a fee or pick of the babies? I know they do this with dogs etc, but snakes are not so simple! :) thanks for your help.
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Re: How do I start to breed morphs?
Spiders are dominant, so if you bred a spider to your female, each egg has a 50% chance of being a spider(or a normal).
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Re: How do I start to breed morphs?
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Originally Posted by aubrey
The next question is would I have to buy a male spider or are there people who would let me breed my normal female with their spider male for a fee or pick of the babies? I know they do this with dogs etc, but snakes are not so simple! :) thanks for your help.
Yes, that's called a breeding loan. You can ask around, but I would suggest that you find someone with a good reputation and someone that you trust instead of the first (or only) person that comes around.
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Re: How do I start to breed morphs?
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Originally Posted by aubrey
Ok, thanks thats helpful. I don't want to go down the route of caramel breeding babies with dad etc, I would like to get some visual morphs from my first clutch. Spider certainly sounds like a good option and I really like them.
Could I just opt for a normal male visual spider to breed with her or would he need to be a het spider? Please forgive my ignorance, I'm very new to all of this!
The next question is would I have to buy a male spider or are there people who would let me breed my normal female with their spider male for a fee or pick of the babies? I know they do this with dogs etc, but snakes are not so simple! :) thanks for your help.
Since the Spider gene is dominant, you will not get any 'hets' for dominant or codominant genes. Het's are only applied to a normal looking animal that carries the genetic for a recessive gene.
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Re: How do I start to breed morphs?
Ok, where would I start to look for a breeding loan? I am based in West Sussex, South England, UK, about an hour from London. Any idea what this might cost? Or would they take their pick from the babies? Thank you.
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Re: How do I start to breed morphs?
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Originally Posted by Purrrfect9
Since the Spider gene is dominant, you will not get any 'hets' for dominant or codominant genes. Het's are only applied to a normal looking animal that carries the genetic for a recessive gene.
So am I right in thinking that you can't get a het spider then? I assume you only get visual spiders, and not snakes that look normal but carry the gene? Slowly getting there :)
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