cinna-bees

does anyone have a picture or link of a good cinna-bee
i have seen one before but i cant find any photos
and another quetion for big breeders i can either breed for a super pastel or a pewter in your guys opions what would be best

I'm not a big breeder.......but FYI pewters are being advertised for about $1000 more than super pastels. If that's a deciding factor.
No cinna-bee here sorry.

Personally, I would go for the super pastel. Super pastels have been around for a while and are a great foundation snake for almost all ball pythons breeders. Pewters are new and awesome looking but they are more expensive so not eveyone can afford one.

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Originally Posted by SUPERBALLS

and another quetion for big breeders i can either breed for a super pastel or a pewter in your guys opions what would be best

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Which one excites you more? That's the one that you should try to breed! :)

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Originally Posted by Alice

Personally, I would go for the super pastel. Super pastels have been around for a while and are a great foundation snake for almost all ball pythons breeders. Pewters are new and awesome looking but they are more expensive so not eveyone can afford one.

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Hahaha, I can't even afford a super pastel... but then again I wouldn't call myself a "breeder" just yet.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Which one excites you more? That's the one that you should try to breed! :)

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I could not agree with you more.I did not think that the Cinny Spiders where that great BUT what they can do for you in the end and mixed with other morphs is what counts in the end I believe.
This year I bred a Pastel AND a Cinny to one of my spiders.If I get a male Cinny Spider I will be EXTREMELY happy :D

Here is a pic of NERD's Pewter Beeze.I think they look AMAZING if you ask me and all the crosses that they could potentially make are just INSANE.

(This pic belongs to NERD)
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...5/8/nerd10.jpg

to get a pewter bee could you breed a cinny to a bumble bee or do you have to do a pewter straight to the bee

You'd have to use a pewter because a pewter bee would be a super pastel, requiring a pastel gene from both parents. Although you could use a killer bee (spider-super pastel) x cinnamon to get pewter bees (better odds at 25%, if I'm doing the math correctly). Or a cinna-bee x super pastel I suppose.

You could produce a Pewter Bee if you bred a Cinny spider to a Pastel IF you hit the triple combo odds ;).Pewter=PastelCinny Bumble Bee=Pastel Spider and Pewter Bee=Pastel Cinny Spider .
WOW it's WAYYYY to early for me lol :P