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  • 12-13-2006, 12:09 AM
    toe_knee
    how can you tell
    when the female is developing follicles???
  • 12-13-2006, 12:14 AM
    SatanicIntention
    Re: how can you tell
    She's crabby and demands chocolate.

    Other than that, I really don't know signs. I recently watched one of mine get palpated for follicles(she had about 15 or so). You can also ultrasound them and see what size the follicles are at(optimum breeding time).
  • 12-13-2006, 12:14 AM
    Uncle Festae
    Re: how can you tell
    Feel them....
  • 12-13-2006, 12:21 AM
    joepythons
    Re: how can you tell
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Uncle Festae
    Feel them....

    My fingers must have no feelings left in them then as i have never felt eggs nor follicles :P .I wait until i discover the female wrapped around some eggs :8:
  • 12-13-2006, 12:32 AM
    Uncle Festae
    Re: how can you tell
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons
    My fingers must have no feelings left in them then as i have never felt eggs nor follicles :P .I wait until i discover the female wrapped around some eggs :8:

    I guess that works too LOL :) They are easy to feel though if you want to. Im a freak like that, I want to know exactly whats going on at all times, I dont like surprises......Unless of course its an odds-smashing clutch, kind of surprise :D those will always be welcome here
  • 12-13-2006, 12:47 AM
    dr del
    Re: how can you tell
    "She's crabby and demands chocolate."


    rotfwl

    :8:


    dr del
  • 12-13-2006, 10:01 AM
    Rapture
    Re: how can you tell
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons
    My fingers must have no feelings left in them then as i have never felt eggs nor follicles :P .I wait until i discover the female wrapped around some eggs :8:

    I could definately tell when my female was gravid last year and when the eggs started moving closer to the end of her tail... looked like she was going to burst. She was a small girl though.
  • 12-13-2006, 12:36 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: how can you tell
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Uncle Festae
    They are easy to feel though if you want to. Im a freak like that, I want to know exactly whats going on at all times, I dont like surprises.

    ROCK ON Brother! The ability to successfully and reliably palpate female ball pythons is the single most beneficial skill a breeder can (and in my opinion must) develop in order to breed with maximum efficiency. Fully developed follicles are extremely easy to feel ... they are like extra large marbles inside of your female ... and an indicator that ovulation is right around the corner.

    Smaller peas sized follicles let you know that your female is receptive to the males breedings and ready to eventually lay eggs, but needs more time with the male to get r done.

    Tracking the development of the follicles over the course of your breeding season helps you keep track of who is going to go, who needs some extra helps, and when you can rest your males to avoid burning them out.

    For the average hobbyist breeder, it's not as important ... for small collections and people just breeding for fun, it's exciting to just be surprised by finding a clutch of eggs one day ... but for people breeding as an investment, it makes the difference between skillfully being "in tune" with your animals and just "praying" that you'll "get lucky".

    Palpate, palpate, palpate!!!

    -adam
  • 12-13-2006, 01:26 PM
    recycling goddess
    Re: how can you tell
    wow, thanks adam!!!
  • 12-13-2006, 01:31 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: how can you tell
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    ROCK ON Brother! The ability to successfully and reliably palpate female ball pythons is the single most beneficial skill a breeder can (and in my opinion must) develop in order to breed with maximum efficiency. Fully developed follicles are extremely easy to feel ... they are like extra large marbles inside of your female ... and an indicator that ovulation is right around the corner.

    Smaller peas sized follicles let you know that your female is receptive to the males breedings and ready to eventually lay eggs, but needs more time with the male to get r done.

    Tracking the development of the follicles over the course of your breeding season helps you keep track of who is going to go, who needs some extra helps, and when you can rest your males to avoid burning them out.

    For the average hobbyist breeder, it's not as important ... for small collections and people just breeding for fun, it's exciting to just be surprised by finding a clutch of eggs one day ... but for people breeding as an investment, it makes the difference between skillfully being "in tune" with your animals and just "praying" that you'll "get lucky".

    Palpate, palpate, palpate!!!

    -adam

    And once you get good at it you can tell if there are any slugs! I did that last year..
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