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Albino to pastel

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  • 07-12-2006, 11:18 AM
    Emilio
    Albino to pastel
    Starting to make some plan's , tell me if I'm wrong.If you breed an albino to a pastel the clutch would all be pastel's which would be 100%hetalbino.
  • 07-12-2006, 11:20 AM
    xdeus
    Re: Albino to pastel
    Nope. You'd have a 50% chance of getting pastels, but they would all be Het for Albino.
  • 07-12-2006, 11:26 AM
    Emilio
    Re: Albino to pastel
    So out of four hatchling's I'd have I'd still have 2 norm's and two pastel's? But wouldn't they all be 100%? That's what I don't understand
  • 07-12-2006, 11:27 AM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Albino to pastel
    Have you seen the pictures of the pastel albinos?

    -adam
  • 07-12-2006, 11:29 AM
    Emilio
    Re: Albino to pastel
    No Adam do you have any? Or where can I see them?
  • 07-12-2006, 11:31 AM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Albino to pastel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by emilio
    No Adam do you have any? Or where can I see them?

    Not sure where you can find them online, and I don't have permission to share the ones that I have, but I'd think you'd definitely want to find those pics before you start on an albino pastel project.

    -adam
  • 07-12-2006, 11:39 AM
    JenHarrison
    Re: Albino to pastel
    IMO they're not that spectacular. Ralph Davis has a page about it in his Matrix:

    http://ralphdavisreptiles.com/matrix...ino_pastel.asp
  • 07-12-2006, 11:42 AM
    cassandra
    Re: Albino to pastel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by emilio
    So out of four hatchling's I'd have I'd still have 2 norm's and two pastel's? But wouldn't they all be 100%? That's what I don't understand

    Pastel and albino genes are different. The pastel gene is dominant, so breeding a pastel to a normal, the average breakdown is that half the babies would be pastel, half would be normal (since both pastel and normal are dominant genes).

    The albino gene is recessive, which means a dominant gene will always win out unless both parents just have the recessive gene. So, for example, breed an albino to a normal, all the baby look normal but all carry the albino gene (100% het for albino). Breed an albino to an albino and bam, all albinos.

    Okay, so breeding a pastel to an albino and you'll get, on average half the snakes that look pastel and half that look normal, but all will carry the albino gene. Make sense?

    Others please correct me if I'm wrong!
  • 07-12-2006, 11:44 AM
    Emilio
    Re: Albino to pastel
    Thanx Jen from what I saw it's probably not a big deal.The head fading is not going to make an already amazing animal more appealing.What do you guy's think?
  • 07-12-2006, 11:46 AM
    xdeus
    Re: Albino to pastel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by emilio
    So out of four hatchling's I'd have I'd still have 2 norm's and two pastel's? But wouldn't they all be 100%? That's what I don't understand

    Yes, they would all be 100% Het. Think of it this way, the pastel is essentially a Het and the albino is Homozygous. If you were to breed a Super Pastel to an Albino, you would get all Pastels that were all 100% Het for Albino. Adam is right, though. A pastel Albino isn't very impressive. I don't know of too many 'mixes' that are cool with Abinos except for Pieds and the pattern morphs (spiders, pins) but that might change this year with Super Cinnies... but it might make "just another" white snake. ;)
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