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  • 06-24-2025, 09:32 AM
    Ben_CincySnakes
    Curious if these are super od / super enchi pieds
    Im new into breeding, making super od and super enchi
    can I get a little help? super OD is a very clean patten , not much "muddy" dark colors on the edging ? how can I see super enchi ? I see lots of pieds with very very reduced pattern and still labeled as a reg enchi pied.
    2 pics of each snake
    pairing was
    od enchi yb pied
    od enchi fire pied

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...w/IMG-5896.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...F/IMG-5895.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...L/IMG-5867.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...z/IMG-5897.jpg
  • 06-24-2025, 01:20 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Curious if these are super od / super enchi pieds
    Nice snakes!

    Odds based on your cross listed:
    Super OD = 1/4
    Super Enchi = 1/4
    Super OD/Super Enchi: (!/4)(1/4) = 1/16

    I would expect a reduced pattern on the head: With a Super OD/Super Enchi/Piebald looking something like this: https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rep...ythons/2946755

    :)
  • 06-24-2025, 01:42 PM
    Ben_CincySnakes
    Re: Curious if these are super od / super enchi pieds
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    Nice snakes!

    Odds based on your cross listed:
    Super OD = 1/4
    Super Enchi = 1/4
    Super OD/Super Enchi: (!/4)(1/4) = 1/16

    I would expect a reduced pattern on the head: With a Super OD/Super Enchi/Piebald looking something like this: https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rep...ythons/2946755

    :)


    Kinova always makes amazing snakes , and some how look way better than everyone else. I am even seeing some super od enchi pied with out with reduced pattern heads
    Super OD Enchi Pied Ball Pythons by Adam Chesla Reptiles - MorphMarket

    would you say either of mine are just super od enchi pieds?
  • 06-24-2025, 02:14 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Curious if these are super od / super enchi pieds
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben_CincySnakes View Post
    Kinova always makes amazing snakes , and some how look way better than everyone else. I am even seeing some super od enchi pied with out with reduced pattern heads
    Super OD Enchi Pied Ball Pythons by Adam Chesla Reptiles - MorphMarket

    would you say either of mine are just super od enchi pieds?

    Kinova was founded by Justin Kobylka: He has been breeding snakes for a long time on a commercial level-His reputation is well known.

    There are a lot of ball pythons on Morphmarket that have 'questionable' ID's, and without genetic testing: I can't blame the sellers for trying their best. I personally would list the parental cross in the description as a disclaimer: In the event that someone disagrees now (or in the future)...

    I think Enchi and Orange Dream can be pretty obfuscated in the single gene form. I would not want to hazard a guess as to whether or not there is a Super OD present with both Fire and YB as possible background genetics...:)
  • 06-24-2025, 02:40 PM
    Ben_CincySnakes
    Re: Curious if these are super od / super enchi pieds
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    Kinova was founded by Justin Kobylka: He has been breeding snakes for a long time on a commercial level-His reputation is well known.

    There are a lot of ball pythons on Morphmarket that have 'questionable' ID's, and without genetic testing: I can't blame the sellers for trying their best. I personally would list the parental cross in the description as a disclaimer: In the event that someone disagrees now (or in the future)...

    I think Enchi and Orange Dream can be pretty obfuscated in the single gene form. I would not want to hazard a guess as to whether or not there is a Super OD present with both Fire and YB as possible background genetics...:)


    Thanks for the help
    Looking on MM and trying to learn genetics is very confusing, even posting on a facebook you get 10 different answers lol. I guess $35 at the shed testing sites might be worth it.
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