Eating behavior changed

My ball python, Angel, is about 6.5 years old and is now around 4.5 ft long. For the past couple of years, I've been feeding him in a separate box that's 16" x 12" x 9". Of the past 4 or 5 times he's fed, 3 of them he's *not* eaten his typical medium sized rat in the box, but about an hour later I propped the box up in his tank so he could crawl back in, and he dragged the rat into the tank to finish feeding. Could it be he's practically outgrown his feeding box to maneuver enough to manage his meal? Should I get a bigger box, or should I try feeding him directly in his tank? I've always read (and my experience has supported it) that having a routine for feeding is a good thing to set expectations, that putting him in his feeding box sets a sort of anticipation for what is about to come. That's generally been successful, but lately I think it's time to change... something. Advice appreciated.

More info: he's been eating regularly, every 2 weeks, one medium sized rat, give or take winter months when he slows down. At this point he's been eating regularly, every other week, since March.

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Originally Posted by Pilch

Should I get a bigger box, or should I try feeding him directly in his tank?

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Feed him in his tank. I think he's telling you as clearly as he's able that he wants to eat in his tank. If you've been feeding him in a separate box to avoid "cage aggression", you needn't. That's a myth. Sometimes, I feed my snake outside of his enclosure as a less stressful way to get him to relocate for enclosure cleanings or weighing. So, if you have a sound reason for feeding him outside his enclosure, trying a bigger box seems like a reasonable thing to do. Either way, don't be surprised if it takes him a little while to adjust. Even small changes can throw them off their game. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

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Originally Posted by Pilch

I've always read (and my experience has supported it) that having a routine for feeding is a good thing to set expectations,

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That's a reasonable idea, and can have some practical benefit. Another approach, though, is to read the snake's cues so to know when and how the snake is ready to eat, and feed him then and in that manner. This is roughly exactly the opposite approach -- instead of training the snake, it involves training the keeper -- but I personally think it is the better approach, or at any rate is worth considering. :)

Yeah, cage aggression is exactly why I’ve fed him externally. Good to know that’s a myth. Next feeding, we’ll try in the cage. And understood about adjustments, seen that plenty of times before. Thanks for the advice! I guess he just got too big for his box, he’s always seemed comfortable eating there. Then again, I’m still learning to read the signs.

Yep, I’ve noticed that about feeding time, he gets more active at night, like he’s out hunting or looking for something. Training the human is apropos here. Thanks for the input.

UPDATE: Fed Angel in the tank for the first time tonight, and it went perfect! What was taking him over an hour to complete the last few feedings in an external box, he did in about 25 min in the tank. And it was less stressful since I didn't haul him outta there into another location. Really appreciate the guidance! Chalk this up to an old human learning new tricks. In the past, I kept his external feeding box wrapped in a towel for privacy, but this time I was able to watch (from a remote corner where he couldn't see me from behind) him eat the last half of the rat... what a fascinating process! Nature is amazing!

So now you know, ball pythons do not like to go "out to dinner"- they much prefer to "eat in". :rofl: It really does stress them out. They like to eat where they feel safe, & that's "at home".

Yep… prefer to eat in… funny :). The last couple of days he’s been a little skittish and tense when I open the door to his tank. I’m chalking that up to “something’s changed in my life” and giving him a few days to settle down before reaching in to get him (it’s about time to clean his tank).