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  • 09-19-2022, 11:56 PM
    Blazin Balls
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    Yellowbelly or Yellowbelly Fire???
  • 09-20-2022, 03:53 AM
    Armiyana
    That little spade or clover looking mark on the back of the head has me thinking fire yb.
  • 09-20-2022, 04:25 AM
    Blazin Balls
    That's what I was leaning towards. The dam is a single gene fire and has that same headstamp. Thank you for the input
  • 09-20-2022, 04:30 AM
    nikkubus
    I'm heavily leaning towards Fire YB on this one but I'm not 100%. If Fire is in there, the expression of the side pattern cleanup is low. Flaming and blushing makes me lean towards it being in there though.
  • 09-20-2022, 04:39 AM
    Blazin Balls
    Dam is a pretty low expression fire I think that is what is making it hard to identify in the babies. I got her as a normal. Thank you for the input
  • 09-20-2022, 07:16 AM
    Albert Clark
    Re: ID Help
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    Originally Posted by Blazin Balls View Post
    Dam is a pretty low expression fire I think that is what is making it hard to identify in the babies. I got her as a normal. Thank you for the input

    What was the sire genetic background? The yellowbelly is pretty apparent with the intense checkering on the belly and the colored flames on the lateral scales. Definitely the overall bright coloration leans to yellowbelly but can also be a fire trait. The head and diminished neck striping has me going Hmmmm. I think the alien head coloration would be lighter in fire gene. Could certainly be low expression.
  • 09-20-2022, 08:25 AM
    Blazin Balls
    Re: ID Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Albert Clark View Post
    What was the sire genetic background? The yellowbelly is pretty apparent with the intense checkering on the belly and the colored flames on the lateral scales. Definitely the overall bright coloration leans to yellowbelly but can also be a fire trait. The head and diminished neck striping has me going Hmmmm. I think the alien head coloration would be lighter in fire gene. Could certainly be low expression.

    The sire is a Banana, Calico, Yellowbelly
  • 09-20-2022, 08:31 AM
    Blazin Balls
  • 09-20-2022, 07:39 PM
    nikkubus
    Wow, the Calico expression on the sire is so strong. What a handsome boy.

    If the dam was sold as a normal and you don't know her lineage, perhaps she has something in the fire complex, but not Fire itself. The headstamp looks a little like Lucifer or Disco can have. Her dorsal isn't too bright like I would expect to see on a Fire, so I agree it's low expression if that's what it is.
  • 09-20-2022, 09:57 PM
    Blazin Balls
    Re: ID Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nikkubus View Post
    Wow, the Calico expression on the sire is so strong. What a handsome boy.

    If the dam was sold as a normal and you don't know her lineage, perhaps she has something in the fire complex, but not Fire itself. The headstamp looks a little like Lucifer or Disco can have. Her dorsal isn't too bright like I would expect to see on a Fire, so I agree it's low expression if that's what it is.

    Thank you I got one just like him I'm excited to see him grow. That's very interesting I've never really looked into those gene's but I can definitely see it.
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