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Need help ID

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  • 09-04-2022, 03:30 PM
    Reptilsoul
    Need help ID
    parents are pastel clown x fire pastel.

    i thanks both are super pastel, but to see the fire, I donīt know XD... what do you think? thanks for help!

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...20-47-56-1.jpg
  • 09-04-2022, 09:19 PM
    nikkubus
    I'd wait till after first shed, it's going to be easier to see accurate colors. I'm leaning towards one on the left having Fire and the other not because the dorsal is a lot brighter yellow, blushing is stronger, and side pattern has more of a peachy tone but until they have shed it's hard to know for sure.
  • 09-05-2022, 01:04 AM
    Reptilsoul
    Re: Need help ID
    ok thanks, I will wait, I will put more pictures when they shed. thanks :)
  • 09-16-2022, 06:45 AM
    Reptilsoul
    Re: Need help ID
    ok, at least they shed.
    I think fire super pastel is, left, has a bit orange and other just super pastel

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...B/DSC-8760.jpg
  • 09-16-2022, 07:55 AM
    nikkubus
    I think it's the reverse. Fire cleans up side pattern, removing black speckles and cutting down on brown and peachy-orange tones. Both look great!
  • 09-16-2022, 09:05 AM
    Reptilsoul
    Re: Need help ID
    ah ok, so right is fire super pastel? ... how the other has the orange, I thought that was fire :D some genetics are dificult to see it
  • 09-16-2022, 10:41 AM
    Argentum
    Re: Need help ID
    To my understanding, Fire doesn't add reds or oranges, it pales, cleans up and brightens things, getting stronger as the snake ages. Someone please correct me if I'm misinterpreting.
  • 09-16-2022, 09:21 PM
    nikkubus
    Re: Need help ID
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reptilsoul View Post
    ah ok, so right is fire super pastel? ... how the other has the orange, I thought that was fire :D some genetics are dificult to see it

    Yes, right is the fire. Those pretty oranges are from having nice underlying genetics so that the Super Pastel taking away some of the browns leaves nice color behind.
  • 09-18-2022, 12:46 PM
    Reptilsoul
    moree babys :D albino cinnamon x ghi mojave.

    I think: 2 nominals. one ghi, one cinnamon, and other I think one is ghi cinnamon, and ghi mojave...


    https://i.ibb.co/86NV5z8/Whats-App-I...18-39-15-1.jpg
    https://i.ibb.co/3rnL607/Whats-App-I...t-18-39-15.jpg
  • 09-18-2022, 06:31 PM
    nikkubus
    Better pictures with good lighting and showing off the heads and side pattern more would help a lot. The two in the top pic more like GHI Mojave to me from these pics, but it's possible they are Cinnamon GHI. First shed could help a lot too so we can see true dorsal color to get hints.

    Pretty sure bottom picture: top middle and top right are normal, lower left is GHI and lower middle is Cinnamon.
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