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  • 05-17-2022, 11:33 AM
    WiscoBalls
    Looking for some experienced eyes on this girl.
    Hi folks, We hatched a really washed clutch back in July of 21.. This girl started much darker but she is getting really light.. We believe she is a Spotnose Yellow belly pos lesser.. Any help or input would be fantastic.. Pairing was Pastel Spotnose het clown x Lesser Yb..

    https://d20zyr0oabjxc2.cloudfront.ne...62A4987583AC4Bhttps://d20zyr0oabjxc2.cloudfront.ne...D061D8CF5EF12Ehttps://d20zyr0oabjxc2.cloudfront.ne...16EFCF08796F49
  • 05-17-2022, 01:14 PM
    ColdBushido
    i'm no expert but i am a bit of a morph nerd! I think it's vey possible you have an all-genes baby right there, she is gorgeous!
  • 05-17-2022, 01:32 PM
    WiscoBalls
    Re: Looking for some experienced eyes on this girl.
    Thank you ! We really do think it's got the lesser, but the pastels in the group are very light. The pastel spotnose babies all had a very blushed out head with no center pattern. Our best guess is Lesser Spotnose Yb.. Thank you for the input though. I think the het clown influence in these makes them really pale also.. some more than others and I know clown markers are debated, but she does have a white tail tip also.
  • 05-17-2022, 08:15 PM
    nikkubus
    Tough call. Seems like the blushing isn't heavy enough to be all 4, but also seems too light for any combo of 3 of those. Got a baby pic and larger belly shot I could see? It's normal to have some fading and a lot of things are easier to ID before that fading kicks in.
  • 05-17-2022, 09:17 PM
    WiscoBalls
    Re: Looking for some experienced eyes on this girl.
    Here are a few of her at very first shed.. thin baby girl.. No belly pictures I am afraid.. Her belly does have a pretty busy checked "popcorn" edge the whole way though.. It was my thought it was showing Yb.

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  • 05-17-2022, 10:41 PM
    Armiyana
    I was hesitant to say anything before nikkubus stepped in, but seconding that lean towards lesser spotnose or lesser yellow belly.

    The colors aren't faded enough for a pastel. The pattern still looks too uniform and pronounced for a 3 gene. I'm thinking lesser spot nose personally, but may be wrong! I'm not as familiar with the gene.
  • 05-18-2022, 01:44 AM
    nikkubus
    Okay, if the belly has nice checking, based on hatchling pics, I'm thinking Lesser Spotnose YB, and Pastel is the one missing. It's easier to see in young pics that the black isn't as strong as you would expect without Lesser present.
  • 05-18-2022, 10:56 AM
    WiscoBalls
    Re: Looking for some experienced eyes on this girl.
    Ok,, Thank you guys for popping in here and getting us some second opinions. We really did think it was Lesser Yb Spotnose as she grew some.. Just really light coloration overall and we assumed the pastel was not present due to the head still having the stamp and yellow coloring. All the pastels in the group had a super washed head,, almost Super pastel washed.. Thank you so much !
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