Multi Pastel ID Help!

Hello. I haven't produced many Super Pastels so I am trying to figure out what these 4 snakes are. The pairing was a Hypo Firefly (m) x Pastel Het Clown (f). The outcomes could be Pastel, Firefly, Super Pastel, Super Firefly. Here are pics of all the Pastels that hatched. Let me know what you think. Thanks!!!!


#1

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ac074aa6_b.jpg

#2

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...bae8e6d7_b.jpg

#3

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f7cc2241_b.jpg

#4

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...dbde3b1b_b.jpg


#5

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c5a80b30_b.jpg

Sorry not able to edit again.

Number 1 is obviously a Pastel. Just not sure on the others.

Better Pic of #3

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...45eed936_b.jpg

Better pic of #4

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c064d9db_b.jpg

Better pic of #5

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...cc271931_b.jpg

They are all amazing! Congrats. #5 strikes me as a superfly, #4 is possibly a superfly as well both due the more advanced blushing on the head stamp and the lateral scales. Also they both seem to have a more jumbled pattern than the others. Depending on what line of pastel was genetically present may be skewed by your “hypo” gene. #3 and #2 strike me as firefly. They don’t seem to have the coloration and blushing as the other two. Although #2 is also more blushed than#3. Very tough call and pastel patterning being very variable but also jumbled and or scrambled they all are winners.

I'm having a hard time because they all look really bright and have a lot of blushing.

2 looks like obvious Super Pastel pattern wise and no indication in the coloration or pattern of the blushing for me to think Fire is in there.

3 is looking like most likely Firefly. The head blushing is strong, but not as strong as 2/4/5 and the overall coloration looks bright vs golden like 1. Flaming/blushing coloration has nice bright Fire color to it.

4 I agree looks like SuperFly, not only from blushing (like 3 but even stronger), but also the slightly cleaned up side pattern that Fire can sometimes cause.

5 is the one I am least sure on but I think Super Pastel. I think the flaming into the blushing isn't strong enough for a Fire, isn't the right color. Even though the pattern isn't as blocky as 2, the blushing is strong enough and color light enough that it should be still Super. Headstamp is much whiter in tone than 3, not just stronger.

I knew this wasn't going to be easy. Thank you to all of have chimed in. Hopefully we'll get some more opinions. I'll see if I can find pics of other Fireflys I have produced for additional comparison.

Here is another Firefly I produced several years ago. This is 2 pics of one snake. Dad is the same Hypo Firefly that produced the others shown above. Mother had no Pastel in her. Let me know what you think. Thanks.


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...fb9c5d13_b.jpg


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ae3779e8_c.jpg

Wow, that one has an incredibly strong head stamp too. Nice oranges in the blushing/flaming like 3/4 have.