ID Help

Hello!!! I thought I had this clutch nailed down but now I am not so sure. These came from a Banana Lesser (m) x Leopard Cinnamon (f). Let me know what you think.


1. Leopard Lesser: Other Leopards I have produced have been much darker.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...8b54a5ee_b.jpg


2. Banana Lesser Cinnamon: None of the Banana Lessers I have produced look like this. Especially his Dad. Plus his head looks Cinny-ish.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...94a259a2_b.jpg


Here are the tricky ones!!

3. Cinnamon Lesser OR Cinnamon Leopard Lesser:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e61c4e51_k.jpg


4. Banana Lesser Leopard Cinnamon: Im thinking the 4 banger on this one bceause the Banana Lesser Cinny looks so different.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c1b6ffd4_b.jpg


Thanks for looking!

1. I am not 100% convinced Leopard is in there, I'd sell it as "poss Leopard" personally.

2. agree

3. agree, pretty sure Leopard is in there due to the drastic nature of pattern reduction

4. agree, same comment as 3

Do you have a pic of your female? Hoping the intensity of her pattern reduction can give clues.

I can't help with IDing, but these are some stunning snakes! :O Such gorgeous, clean colours and markings. I especially like the light-coloured ones and they all have some very nice stripes running down their backs.

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Originally Posted by Luvyna

I can't help with IDing, but these are some stunning snakes! :O Such gorgeous, clean colours and markings. I especially like the light-coloured ones and they all have some very nice stripes running down their backs.

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Thanks. It was an exciting clutch to watch progress.

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Originally Posted by nikkubus

1. I am not 100% convinced Leopard is in there, I'd sell it as "poss Leopard" personally.

2. agree

3. agree, pretty sure Leopard is in there due to the drastic nature of pattern reduction

4. agree, same comment as 3

Do you have a pic of your female? Hoping the intensity of her pattern reduction can give clues.

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I'll get some of the mom today. Thanks.

Here are a couple of pics of the mom. Leopard Cinny. She got a little flighty after a minute so I wasn't able to get great pics.



https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...52cf9be3_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0964384b_b.jpg

Okay, after seeing your particular Leopard line, I'm convinced 3/4 are for sure, and more confident that 1 is than I was before but still not 100%. Pretty great luck with odds this clutch! :)

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Originally Posted by nikkubus

Okay, after seeing your particular Leopard line, I'm convinced 3/4 are for sure, and more confident that 1 is than I was before but still not 100%. Pretty great luck with odds this clutch! :)

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Thank you! I got some good variety in this clutch. I also go a Leopard Cinny that looks just like his mom and a Banana Cinny as well.

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Originally Posted by CeeJay

Thank you! I got some good variety in this clutch. I also go a Leopard Cinny that looks just like his mom and a Banana Cinny as well.

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Congrats on the clutch! First off, that Leopard Cinny dam in the picture is amazing.

1. I do seem to see leopard gene here but I was thinking the lesser gene would blush and lighten the head more. Kind of like a blushed lightened head stamp.

2.yes, great example of the morph.

3. Not sure of leopard here. I thought I would see a more busy lateral pattern. This animal is rather clean there with mostly the striping ?

4. I can dig the more busy lateral patterning along the striping. Yeah, full package here. Wow! :gj:

Congratulations again !!!

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Originally Posted by Albert Clark

Congrats on the clutch! First off, that Leopard Cinny dam in the picture is amazing.

1. I do seem to see leopard gene here but I was thinking the lesser gene would blush and lighten the head more. Kind of like a blushed lightened head stamp.

2.yes, great example of the morph.

3. Not sure of leopard here. I thought I would see a more busy lateral pattern. This animal is rather clean there with mostly the striping ?

4. I can dig the more busy lateral patterning along the striping. Yeah, full package here. Wow! :gj:

Congratulations again !!!

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Thank you Albert!

The Leopard Cinny momma is pretty amazing. I knew I had to have her the moment I spotted her.