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Bull or Gopher ?

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  • 12-19-2005, 08:46 PM
    Brandon.O
    Bull or Gopher ?
    Hey guys, i have a normal male sonoran gopher snake.....or a bull snake, im not exactly sure of what he is, no matter where i look both species look identical !!

    I was thinking about buying an albino female and breeding them a couple years down the road, my question is. What species should a buy ? A gopher or a Bull snake ?

    If these two species crossed would it be a problem ?
  • 12-19-2005, 08:48 PM
    reptile-girl
    Re: Bull or Gopher ?
    i bet it would help if you had pics:)
  • 12-19-2005, 10:00 PM
    reptile-girl
    Re: Bull or Gopher ?
    lol i googled it and found out that bull snakes are a subspecies of gopher snakes, no wonder they look so much alike
  • 12-19-2005, 10:25 PM
    mr~python
    Re: Bull or Gopher ?
    it wouldnt be a problem if they hybridized. gopher x bull hybrids are already available to hobbyists. im pretty sure it would be like the equivelant of two boa species hybridiizing. i think their was a thread on a bull x gopher hybrid here a couple months ago, you might be able to search it out if you want.
  • 12-19-2005, 10:33 PM
    Brandon.O
    Re: Bull or Gopher ?
    Here he is, its not a very good picture of him but you get the idea. Ill try to get some good pictures tomorrow.



    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...1/DSC01874.JPG

    The reason im asking is becuase i was thinking about breeding boas but even in a few years(that would be me in college) i might not have to the room and money to maintain two large breeding boas and so that got me thinking about this little guy, he is such a sweet snake, very curious and well behaved. I think that thier adult size would be great, i love heavy bodied colubrids, not to big and not so small.
  • 12-19-2005, 10:57 PM
    mr~python
    Re: Bull or Gopher ?
    when you get better pics try to get the whole body, the rear 3rd of the snake, and get a clear side view of the snake.

    we have gopher snakes all over our property and im the resident gopher snake expert:P it looks a lot like a bull to me but i very easily could be wrong
  • 12-20-2005, 02:23 AM
    ballpythonandragon
    Re: Bull or Gopher ?
    That looks very simlar to the bull snake they have at a local petshop here. Another good why is to tell how they move doe's he slither like a sidewinder? How long have you had this snake they are sweety i would like to get a baby someday but im waiting till the spring to decide. Great pics i would like to see more. Thanks Aaron
  • 12-20-2005, 02:28 AM
    Brandon.O
    Re: Bull or Gopher ?
    Yes he does kinda slither like a sidewinder, his body is almost never straight when he moves and he moves very fast.
  • 12-20-2005, 07:13 AM
    Jeanne
    Re: Bull or Gopher ?
    Looks like a sonoran gopher snake, not a bull snake.
  • 12-20-2005, 07:44 PM
    ErikH
    Re: Bull or Gopher ?
    It looks very much like my son's Sonoran Gopher, but my son's snake is an albino, so I can't be sure.
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