Need help ID, super orange fire spier enchi?

Hi guys and gals, I need help identifying this ball python.
Father: Orange dream
Mother: Orange dream Fire Spider Enchi
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https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/Y56jC78.jpg
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Wouldn’t doubt it that’s for sure.


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Originally Posted by Bertoxvx

Wouldn’t doubt it that’s for sure.


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Thanks!!
at first, I wasnt sure if it has enchi gene or if it was a non-super OD.
This is my first ball python so wasnt really sure.

I definitely think super OD, fire and spider are a given.
The Enchi is definitely possible as a low expression... But I think the sides are a little too white? I think with a high expression Enchi the sides would be a bit more solid.

Either way, beautiful little noodle! It's definitely possible to have all the genes there. Nice little powerhouse either way.

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Originally Posted by Armiyana

I definitely think super OD, fire and spider are a given.
The Enchi is definitely possible as a low expression... But I think the sides are a little too white? I think with a high expression Enchi the sides would be a bit more solid.

Either way, beautiful little noodle! It's definitely possible to have all the genes there. Nice little powerhouse either way.

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Thanks !!
so the enchi gene will reduce the white on the sides and the body will be more orange/yellow compared to non-enchi?

Given the head stamp and area near the eyes, I think there is a really good chance it hit the odds for every single possible morph including Enchi. Minus one copy of OD or minus Fire, there should be some level of brown in the upper half of the sides. Minus Enchi, there should be more black on back part of the head and near the eyes. The Spider is pretty obvious.

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Originally Posted by ballsicle

Thanks !!
so the enchi gene will reduce the white on the sides and the body will be more orange/yellow compared to non-enchi?

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Nikkubus is definitely more experienced than I am, so I would trust that judgement.
From what I've seen, a high quality enchi will brown out the pattern a bit in some combos as well as bring the unique banding in. When you have enchi and orange dream, all that gold/brown from the enchi just amps up to a brighter color.

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Originally Posted by nikkubus

Given the head stamp and area near the eyes, I think there is a really good chance it hit the odds for every single possible morph including Enchi. Minus one copy of OD or minus Fire, there should be some level of brown in the upper half of the sides. Minus Enchi, there should be more black on back part of the head and near the eyes. The Spider is pretty obvious.

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Thanks Nikkubus