Help with morph

Hi! I don't understand that yes the baby has a morph
male champagne x female Spider crystal
I don't see anything like this in the genetic wizard
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...allery/ZdWTzpFhttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...allery/ZdWTzpFhttps://postimg.cc/gallery/ZdWTzpF

Champagne start out really light in certain combos. Likely that one is Crystal Champagne. It will probably pick up more color as it grows.

As far as I know, nobody has been able to produce a viable Champagne Spider. I would avoid that pairing again because best case, you will get 25% eggs that won't hatch, worse case, you will hatch a baby that will end up dying really young after really struggling and suffering.

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Originally Posted by nikkubus

Champagne start out really light in certain combos. Likely that one is Crystal Champagne. It will probably pick up more color as it grows.

As far as I know, nobody has been able to produce a viable Champagne Spider. I would avoid that pairing again because best case, you will get 25% eggs that won't hatch, worse case, you will hatch a baby that will end up dying really young after really struggling and suffering.

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Thanks. I will be watching the baby’s and I hope they will be all right . This is the first experience, and I will not put such a pair anymore . In this clutch, only the mojave baby turned out to be of normal size and absorbed the yolk, the rest left the yolk and are too small in size(

Given that information, there is a good change that baby will color up significantly, as it probably hatched a tad bit under developed. You should know more once a bit more color comes in.

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Originally Posted by nikkubus

Given that information, there is a good change that baby will color up significantly, as it probably hatched a tad bit under developed. You should know more once a bit more color comes in.

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I'll wait when it fades for the first time, maybe the color will be clearer)

After the first molt
https://postimg.cc/p58jzVBk

Looks like lethal champagne spider https://www.worldofballpythons.com/m...mpagne-spider/
mb champagne spider special or champagne spider mojave ?

Do you have pictures of the parents? There may be another gene floating around in there as well.

My guess would be maybe one of the parents is pastel and this is a pastel Mojave champagne?
I will be VERY surprised if it is a spider champagne because as people said, most die shortly after hatching. The ones that live a bit longer usually have a lot of neurological issues. IIRC, Kevin at NERD posted a video about possible super spiders or champagne spiders and those animals are heartbreaking to watch.

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Originally Posted by Armiyana

Do you have pictures of the parents? There may be another gene floating around in there as well.

My guess would be maybe one of the parents is pastel and this is a pastel Mojave champagne?
I will be VERY surprised if it is a spider champagne because as people said, most die shortly after hatching. The ones that live a bit longer usually have a lot of neurological issues. IIRC, Kevin at NERD posted a video about possible super spiders or champagne spiders and those animals are heartbreaking to watch.

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Thats parents
https://postimg.cc/14wzChcx
https://postimg.cc/fSJfsWwv

Unfortunately he (that baby) has a wobble(

It's starting to pick up color. Probably Champagne Crystal. It would have died by now if it was Champagne Spider. If it were Crystal Spider, it should have a lot more defined lines and a lot more color in the head. A Champagne having a varied look from the average is business as usual for that morph.