Thoughts on this Guy?? Pastel Axanthic or Axanthic??

I recently bought this guy, his parents are VPI Axanthic Spider x Pastel het VPI Axanthic. He was sold as a VPI Axanthic, the breeder believes he may be Pastel Axanthic but was not 100% sure..


I personally don't care, he is awesome either way. I have a a VPI Axanthic his coloring is different from this guy..

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His head stamp is pretty dark for a pastel, but he does appear to be one. Might be the camera angle or something. He has that classic pastel narrowing of side pattern and lots of blushing.

Unexperienced keeper/breeder here, but that looks like a Pastel Axanthic to me. Although there's not a ton of blushing, there is some. And there seems to be some distorsion of the pattern that is pretty typical of the Pastel gene in my limited experience.

it looks like a pastel axanthic to me.

Am I wrong to always look at the front of their mouth as well for pastels ? I read and it a couple of places and it seems to hold true on almost every pastel I have seen. Most will have "whiteish" upper lips and the front upper corners of their mouths. This sometimes wraps up over their nose too. At any rate, I also think this looks pastel to me (mouth lightening included).

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Originally Posted by WiscoBalls

Am I wrong to always look at the front of their mouth as well for pastels ? I read and it a couple of places and it seems to hold true on almost every pastel I have seen. Most will have "whiteish" upper lips and the front upper corners of their mouths. This sometimes wraps up over their nose too. At any rate, I also think this looks pastel to me (mouth lightening included).

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Nope you're right! That's the first thing I look for lol it definitely looks pastel to me