How to make the Whitest BEL ??

I currently have a male lesser, and I'm planning to produce pure white BEL

(wanna avoid the yellowish stripes along the spine)


Lesser X Lessser
Lesser X Mojave
Lesser X Russo

Among the three options above, what would make the pure whitest BEL?? https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=...AAAAAdAAAAABAR






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Any BluEL has the potential for a yellow dorsal forming. I have seen adults of all of those and all of them have had some degree of visual stripe

If you want a true, stark white animal then your best bets are all-white BlkEL or all-white Pieds

From what I understand, the whitest of white morphs come from White Wedding- which is a Spider Pied that just happens to come out all white.

If you're choosing out of that list, though... looking at them side by side, it looks like Super Lessers tend to come out brighter and have the yellow dorsal less often.

Super Lessers routinely produce the whitest snakes in the BEL complex, it's infrequent for them to have an ivory dorsal stripe or light grey head stamp.


Of course, some pairings will produce eye defects in at least a snake or two every clutch, they can have eyes too small or bug eyes.
Other pairings will not produce eye defects.

Nobody knows exactly why it happens, my theory is that there is a gene floating around among the lessers, on it's own does not cause bug eyes, but when combined with 2 copies of lesser does cause bug eyes.


If it were me, I'd spring for an albino female with a gene from, the BEL complex with a year or two of age on her, such as a bamboo, lesser, mojave, russo.
From that pairing you can produce a BEL male thats het for albino, then run that male back to the female to produce REL's.

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Originally Posted by JobForARetic

Nobody knows exactly why it happens, my theory is that there is a gene floating around among the lessers, on it's own does not cause bug eyes, but when combined with 2 copies of lesser does cause bug eyes.

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The bug-eyes are an associated effect of the Lesser gene, much the same way that neuro is associated with Spider. That is why we see the same phenomenon in BluELs in other species like rat snakes and Burms and retics

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Originally Posted by asplundii

The bug-eyes are an associated effect of the Lesser gene, much the same way that neuro is associated with Spider. That is why we see the same phenomenon in BluELs in other species like rat snakes and Burms and retics

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it’s not associated specifically with the lesser gene.

Most super lessers do not have eye defects.
All spiders have a wobble.

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Originally Posted by PartySnake13

it’s not associated specifically with the lesser gene.

Most super lessers do not have eye defects.
All spiders have a wobble.

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Yes, it is specifically associated with Lesser. Any SuperLesser has the potential to have bug-eyes, there is not a "line" of bug-eye free Lessers. Just because they do not all manifest it does not mean it is unrelated to the gene.