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  • 06-11-2020, 09:05 AM
    ebcjoel
    Unusual Garter Snake Morph
    I found this guy and wanted some opinions. There are three possible candidates either Western garter, Northwestern Garter or Common Garter. I think it's a common because of the normal ones I find usually. However as you can see it's a beautiful mutation. It's hard to see in the pics but the head is actually blue-ish. I'd call it amelanistic. What do you guys think.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ibb.co/Fm6xJbQ

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ibb.co/hBZkrL3

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ibb.co/qjCP0Hq

    https://ibb.co/qjCP0Hq
    https://ibb.co/hBZkrL3
    https://ibb.co/Fm6xJbQ
  • 06-11-2020, 09:14 AM
    BPGator
    Re: Unusual Garter Snake Morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ebcjoel View Post
    I found this guy and wanted some opinions. There are three possible candidates either Western garter, Northwestern Garter or Common Garter. I think it's a common because of the normal ones I find usually. However as you can see it's a beautiful mutation. It's hard to see in the pics but the head is actually blue-ish. I'd call it amelanistic. What do you guys think.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ibb.co/Fm6xJbQ

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ibb.co/hBZkrL3

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ibb.co/qjCP0Hq

    https://ibb.co/qjCP0Hq
    https://ibb.co/hBZkrL3
    https://ibb.co/Fm6xJbQ

    That’s pretty cool. Where did you find him? That could help with identifying the species.


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  • 06-11-2020, 09:21 AM
    Skyrivers
    Re: Unusual Garter Snake Morph
    Cant see the photos?
  • 06-11-2020, 01:31 PM
    ebcjoel
    Re: Unusual Garter Snake Morph
    I found him in Easter Washington. So there are a few suspects.
    Interestingly there's a small colony in my backyard that live in a rock pile. I suppose some in there might be het for whatever this is.
  • 06-11-2020, 01:34 PM
    ebcjoel
    Re: Unusual Garter Snake Morph
    Yeah I can't make the imbed feature work. Maybe it's that hosting service or something?
  • 06-11-2020, 01:47 PM
    BPGator
    Re: Unusual Garter Snake Morph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ebcjoel View Post
    I found him in Easter Washington. So there are a few suspects.
    Interestingly there's a small colony in my backyard that live in a rock pile. I suppose some in there might be het for whatever this is.

    Not sure. I don't think northwestern garters (T. ordinoides) are present in eastern Washington. My guess would be T. elegans or T. sirtalis. Do you mind if I share your pictures in a different group for opinions?
  • 06-11-2020, 08:39 PM
    BPGator
    Re: Unusual Garter Snake Morph
    Asked a few folks and consensus is Wandering Garter (T. elegans vagrans)


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  • 06-12-2020, 09:37 AM
    4theSNAKElady
    Re: Unusual Garter Snake Morph
    Regardless, thats a pretty gorgeous specimen!!! A great discovery indeed.
  • 06-13-2020, 07:59 AM
    bns
    The smallish head and slightly smaller eyes point to the Northwestern Garter snake.

    I observed many when I was in the northwest and they can be very variable in color (even grey with white stripe) but I have never seen one so light.

    Thanks for sharing that neat find.
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