Fire gene markers?

I have 2 young bps and both are supposed to have the 🔥 gene. Is there a way to tell by looking? The oldest (14 mo.) Is a fire pinstripe, the other is a firefly/od. I read about a head stamp but don't see one on either. At about ten months of age the pinstripe caramel color turned into a metallic gold/bronze color. But it comes every other shed? I've only had the fire fly for two months, so I'm waiting and watching. What should I watch for? Thanks

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The fires I have produced have a clear belly and a head stamp that is a different color than the rest of the head.

https://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c...w/DSC02583.jpg


This is one of mine.

Thank you CeeJay,I'm glad someone provided what I asked for. If anyone has any more markers or clarification please chime in.

Fire is not obvious. In multi-gene combos it can be completely obscured or mistaken for another lightener.

If I showed you these two snakes and told you one was fire and one was not, you would clearly be able to guess which one it is:
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/CmW4QSj.jpg

So the question is: What key differences?

1. Overall Lightening of Color which spreads up from the sides (which is how fire gets its name)
2. Some form of head stamp on the back of the head (which is often obscured in combos)
3. Granulation pattern on the sides

Standard Fire Hatchling--example below

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/h6hlOsp.jpg

If we examine a Super Pastel Vs. a Super Pastel Fire you can see what Fire does to lighten the patterning:

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/FA30tuU.jpg

Because combos aren't always clear who has Fire and who does not: Usually you have to rely on a breeders best judgement and trust they know what they are looking at :)

Thank the Lord! So sometimes it's clear as mud? I'll just keep watching and love 'em for what they are. I appreciate any insight I gain.