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  • 09-08-2019, 02:57 PM
    SnapesMa
    Was labeled Banana, but...your thoughts?
    Hi all! I purchased my first snake (I was actually terrified of them until I was convinced to hold this one at the pet store) in July. He was labeled banana along with what appears to be a true banana in the same enclosure, however he looks quite different. His coloring is different (paler, no orange, yellow is muted, no purple), he has perhaps 3-4 freckles on his whole body and he has a lighter cream colored dorsal stripe. Any ideas as to what else may be mixed in? I’d be grateful for any insight! :)

    Here are a few links. I added images earlier, but every time I submit, I get an error and have to start the post over :confusd:

    I took these this morning after his shed last night :snake: Contrast looks a little weird for the two where he’s on the floor, but they are all in natural light.

    https://ibb.co/jMhcTjx
    https://ibb.co/r69qt19
    https://ibb.co/ZfYFyms

    These are from the pet store. The first shows his pattern pretty well and the other two show him next to the banana he was enclosed with.


    https://ibb.co/37tfrst
    https://ibb.co/5v5KZBC
    https://ibb.co/wBdXGGY
  • 09-08-2019, 03:54 PM
    SnapesMa
    Trying once more to add photos. Hopefully this works! The first three were taken this morning in natural light. He just shed last night. Sorry the first photo is a little off color-wise, but it really shows the color variation in his darker areas. The rest are pretty spot on.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...-E534679-D.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...-E6-E4-AB7.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...-FD40-B466.jpg

    At the pet store and next to the banana he was cohabiting with:

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...C5-BAF4934.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...52-DDDEFAC.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...-B6949-DFF.jpg
  • 09-08-2019, 04:06 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Considering the size and lack of spots it is more than a banana there is another gene at play. Outdoor pics in natural light will help.
  • 09-08-2019, 04:44 PM
    SnapesMa
    Was labeled Banana, but...your thoughts?
  • 09-08-2019, 05:10 PM
    Luvyna
    Can't offer any insight on what morph it is, but I just wanted to say, WOW that is a beautiful snake! Such lovely pale colours and those blue eyes are gorgeous. When I bought my BP, Noodle, I was originally looking for a snake that looks like yours. Very interested in what others have to say about this morph.
  • 09-08-2019, 06:49 PM
    SnapesMa
    Re: Was labeled Banana, but...your thoughts?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Luvyna View Post
    Can't offer any insight on what morph it is, but I just wanted to say, WOW that is a beautiful snake! Such lovely pale colours and those blue eyes are gorgeous. When I bought my BP, Noodle, I was originally looking for a snake that looks like yours. Very interested in what others have to say about this morph.

    Aww, thank you! [emoji4][emoji3590]


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  • 09-09-2019, 05:39 AM
    mechliam
    Hey,

    Definately looks like there is another gene at play here based on the colour of the snake and lack of black freckling. I don't know what it is though.

    Hopefully some banana breeders will be able to weigh in here.

    Great looking snake though,

    Liam.
    https://www.reptilerange.com/ball-python-care-sheet/
  • 09-09-2019, 07:14 PM
    Ax01
    wow this is a tough one. i'm assuming he was priced much more than the reg Banana? anyways i would guess that's at least a 3 gene BP, maybe more. i think it's at least a Banana Lesser and either Spider or Spotnose. it probably also has Pastel.
  • 09-10-2019, 08:47 AM
    SnapesMa
    Was labeled Banana, but...your thoughts?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
    wow this is a tough one. i'm assuming he was priced much more than the reg Banana? anyways i would guess that's at least a 3 gene BP, maybe more. i think it's at least a Banana Lesser and either Spider or Spotnose. it probably also has Pastel.

    No, he was labeled Banana, enclosed with a banana and priced as one. I actually got a pretty good deal when I got him though. He was originally priced at $350, but I got him for $175.

    I’m not sure about the Spider. He has no wobble and has no problem keeping/getting himself upright. From what I understand, that morph presents neurological issues that I haven’t observed in mine.

    A local herp mentioned pinstripe, but all the banana pins I’ve found look much different. I’ve researched morphs daily for over a month since I got him, looked at countless photos of various crosses (even using UK terms - royal, coral glow, etc.) and haven’t come across another like mine. I was hoping my lack of results was just inexperience in not knowing what to look for, but it seems he really is just a special boy [emoji4]

    I looked up Spotnose and came across a YouTube video that has a banana that looks probably the most similar to mine that I’ve seen so far. Pattern is a bit different/busier, but the colors are very close and it has the lighter dorsal stripe. I’m sure it’s not the exact same mix as below, but I think you may be on to something with this one [emoji4][emoji1360]

    Thanks a bunch for your insight and help!

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ba518db77d.jpg


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  • 09-10-2019, 08:57 AM
    SnapesMa
    Re: Was labeled Banana, but...your thoughts?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mechliam View Post
    Hey,

    Definately looks like there is another gene at play here based on the colour of the snake and lack of black freckling. I don't know what it is though.

    Hopefully some banana breeders will be able to weigh in here.

    Great looking snake though,

    Liam.
    https://www.reptilerange.com/ball-python-care-sheet/

    Thank you! [emoji4][emoji1374]


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