Eeden troubles (my rescue pueblan)

So Eeden has stopped eating again. I have no idea what is going on. He is in a 20L. 2 hides, plenty of things to climb and lots of plants. Temps sit between 78-85 depending on where he is in the enclosure. He is wanting out again. Just roaming. He ate a big meal 3 weeks ago and. Now refuses to eat but roams like he is hungry. I'm worried. He is 11 years old.

That's not much of a temperature range, & I'd lower it. Try for 70* at one end & about 82* on the other. How long is he now? (wondering if a 20L has enough
length compared to his)

I'd drop the temps down too. I'd personally shoot for loser to 72 & 82ish, but Bogertophis has much more colubrid experience than I do, so I'll defer to Boger on this one.

And yeah, please remind me of his size?

When I got him he was 31" same length of the tank. Now he can stretch the front and wrap almost to the back. So maybe 41-42"

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Originally Posted by Sunnieskys

When I got him he was 31" same length of the tank. Now he can stretch the front and wrap almost to the back. So maybe 41-42"

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I'm thinking that a 20L (30" long tank) is not enough room for him to get away from the warm end of cage, & I think he's over-heated. I don't think 2* will matter much-
as far as the low end being 70* or 72*- mainly his cage temps. need to come down & that he may not have had enough room in a 20L to thermo-regulate as he should.
It sure seems like he's been trying to tell you something is amiss. Also, is this heated by UTH? What size is it?

I wouldn't be worried just yet. He's middle-aged, his metabolism isn't as fast as when he was a growing youngster, and he had a huge meal recently.

My adult milk/king snakes all are on a 10-14 day feeding schedule over the warmer months, and a few won't eat while in shed so they'll miss a meal periodically. Plus over the winter while I don't brumate them, they sense the season change and back themselves off to feeding every 3-4 weeks. I would give him another week and offer a smaller feeder, just to see if he's interested.

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Originally Posted by bcr229

I wouldn't be worried just yet. He's middle-aged, his metabolism isn't as fast as when he was a growing youngster, and he had a huge meal recently.

My adult milk/king snakes all are on a 10-14 day feeding schedule over the warmer months, and a few won't eat while in shed so they'll miss a meal periodically. Plus over the winter while I don't brumate them, they sense the season change and back themselves off to feeding every 3-4 weeks. I would give him another week and offer a smaller feeder, just to see if he's interested.

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Yes, I agree with this too ^ ^ ^ and maybe that recent big meal is sending him into a shed, who knows? Don't panic.

Don't have any wisdom on the matter but would like to see a photo or 2? :P:D:):O:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

I'm thinking that a 20L (30" long tank) is not enough room for him to get away from the warm end of cage, & I think he's over-heated. I don't think 2* will matter much-
as far as the low end being 70* or 72*- mainly his cage temps. need to come down & that he may not have had enough room in a 20L to thermo-regulate as he should.
It sure seems like he's been trying to tell you something is amiss. Also, is this heated by UTH? What size is it?

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Uth is small. Little bigger than his hide. Red heat lamp on the hot side. And a thermostat regulates the uth

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Originally Posted by bcr229

I wouldn't be worried just yet. He's middle-aged, his metabolism isn't as fast as when he was a growing youngster, and he had a huge meal recently.

My adult milk/king snakes all are on a 10-14 day feeding schedule over the warmer months, and a few won't eat while in shed so they'll miss a meal periodically. Plus over the winter while I don't brumate them, they sense the season change and back themselves off to feeding every 3-4 weeks. I would give him another week and offer a smaller feeder, just to see if he's interested.

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His previous two owners only fed him 1 fuzzy his entire life. He was small, the size of a bubble tea straw and 30" long. I have him up on hoppers because he refuses to eat an small adult mouse.