The winter soldier!!

This little baby rat snake has had a rough start! We just had several inches of snow about a week and a half ago, and it's been below freezing every night since. On thanksgiving we found him sitting inside the front door, so we decided to give him his own home. He's in a 20g long ( I know it's too big but I don't have anything smaller so I tried to fill it as much as possible), a 60w ceramic bulb (not the one pictured) keeping the hot side around 83 and the cool side is at 72. I have a few pinkies in the freezer and will try to feed him one tonight. I've watched several videos of people handling wild caught baby rat snakes and they always look so docile... well this little one is feisty lol. He bites, strikes, and does a tail wag threat.. if anyone has any suggestions on how to begin handling/taming him I'm all ears!


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Couple of questions. Did u quarantine him? Check for mites?

Also wild caught willow be nippy. Just got to put in time

How CUTE! That poor little snake, I'll bet he'd have rung the doorbell if he could have, out there in the cold....brrrr! Thank you for helping him!

Please don't rush trying to feed him tonight...give him a few days to a week+, as his metabolism has been set for brumation, not eating at this time. If he takes
food right now he'll probably throw it back up...it takes time for them to "change gears".

Yes, they are normally feisty little things...that's a good sign IMO. They catch on quick though if you're patient. You'd be scared too if you were that small! :O
Remember, no handling until he has fed easily for you at least 3 times...then go slow.

He's NOT likely to have mites, I could pretty much guarantee he's mite-free, as mites aren't native in wild U.S. snakes. Do look for ticks, & you might need to
worm him, but don't even think about doing that until after he's feeding regularly & very settled in, if at all. (-if stools seem funky or he fails to gain weight)

That hide is way too tall & open for him to feel safe...you can improve it greatly by crumpling a paper towel & shoving it in the entryway, or use other things
like small cardboard boxes w/ hole cut for a door, even a paper towel roll (block one end w/ paper). The size of the cage is fine...outdoors is even bigger. ;)
Don't underestimate rat snakes...they climb very well...make sure your cage top is locked & escape-proof. Trust me... They enjoy taller cages with branches,
just make sure the top is secure...he can get killed if he pushes it up a bit to squeeze thru, & he WILL be motivated to try.

Wish one of these would come to MY door...:P

If you haven't fed him yet put him back outside on a warm-ish, sunny day. They are designed to brumate over the winter but to support that they stop eating so that their stomachs are empty.

For sure, releasing him back to the wild is an option to consider (assuming you get a break in temperatures?) but I answered the way I did because it sounded as
if your (OP) mind is made up about keeping him. (ie. "... if anyone has any suggestions on how to begin handling/taming him I'm all ears! ")

Thank you so much for the responses!! I did check for mites/ticks before putting him in the enclosure.. I had him in a white Tupperware tub so I could see if any fell off too. He looks clear. I am thinking of keeping him, I have a ball python and was just looking into getting another snake so this is a happy coincidence. I'll give him a few more days to get adjusted then try feeding- thank you for the advice. He seems to enjoy burrowing instead of using the hides.. I'll keep adjusting the tank to try and make him more comfortable!

Awww...so cute !!!!

I rescued this one out at the horse barn. Another boarder was screaming about a snake and someone told her "get Lucy". :rofl:

So off I went to see what the commotion was. They were just about to kill this poor little baby, thinking it was a rattle snake :rolleyes: Then again, they think every snake is a rattle snake.

I got that baby out of the bucket and into the woods :) Such a Beauty it was, too !!!


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I also once saved a rough green snake from a Barn Cat. That one was beautiful, too, emerald green like a green tree python. It was very scared and very stressed, so I didn't handle that one. Just let it "catch its breath" and then allowed it to crawl on a stick, which I laid down at the wood line.


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I've come across several Copperheads, young Eastern Diamond Backs and a Cottonmouth, too, but those I don't pick up ;)

Zina, I'm not sure where the OP is located, but I suspect it's warmer where you are (for re-locations). If a snake is put in a new location & doesn't have enough
time to find adequate cover (from cold/heat & predators) it's a death sentence. I've rarely kept any snakes that were healthy & just needed relocated...only with
good reason (survival issue).

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Zina, I'm not sure where the OP is located, but I suspect it's warmer where you are (for re-locations). If a snake is put in a new location & doesn't have enough
time to find adequate cover (from cold/heat & predators) it's a death sentence. I've rarely kept any snakes that were healthy & just needed relocated...only with
good reason (survival issue).

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Oh, that happened back in the summer, so there was no problem with re-location. Since the barn is literally carved out of the woods, I only carried him/her about 30 feet away and released him/her into the wood line :)

If I found such a tiny baby out in the ice cold and snow, I have to say, I'd be tempted to keep it until spring ;)

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Oh, that happened back in the summer, so there was no problem with re-location. Since the barn is literally carved out of the woods, I only carried him/her about 30 feet away and released him/her into the wood line :)

If I found such a tiny baby out in the ice cold and snow, I have to say, I'd be tempted to keep it until spring ;)

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Yeah, that's what I was getting at. Enjoyed your photos anyway, as always.